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Panthers may be winning, but fans still acting like losers

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18 hours ago, @bobbyagnese said:

PSL owners can get offended by this as much as they would like, but we don't have a fan culture that correlates with the recent success of this team. Packers, Chiefs, Pats, Hawks, Cowboys, Steelers put us to shame

Does the huddle pay people to come make stupid posts? The Cowboys' stadium is constantly filled with fans of the opponent.

Go to a playoff game. Or a night game. Don't judge a fanbase by a 1:00 blowout game in an oven.

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I'm not sure how many people realize how brutal it can be to sit out at BOA in a 90+ degree game in September, especially one that is pushing 4 hours long.  Hard enough to do sober, but when you add in alcohol, it becomes even more difficult to not only stay out there, but to stay loud the whole game.  You have to stay extremely hydrated and wear sun screen.  If you're not prepared you will likely end up in the shade of the concourse or leave early.

I don't think it's fair to criticize people for yesterday other than people not being there at kickoff.  That is embarrassing.  Otherwise, I think we have great fans all things considered.  Just watching at home you can tell a noticeable difference from several years back in how loud it sounds.

When the weather gets more bearable, fans stay in their seats and stay loud.  BOA has gotten way better in the last 5 years.  Obviously the product on the field is better, but I also think the fan base is maturing.  Sitting in the stands during a game with a heat index approaching or above 100 is just as hard as sitting through a game in the 20's IMO.

Trying to call fans losers for not sitting out in the blistering heat for 4 hours is ignorant and condescending.  I have seen a massive improvement in fan loyalty and loudness over the past 10 years.  In no way should one game be used to make sweeping judgments.  

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19 hours ago, @bobbyagnese said:

PSL owners can get offended by this as much as they would like, but we don't have a fan culture that correlates with the recent success of this team. Packers, Chiefs, Pats, Hawks, Cowboys, Steelers put us to shame

I went to a steelers chargers game and everyone sat down, even on 3rd downs. Its not what you think

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5 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

I went to a steelers chargers game and everyone sat down, even on 3rd downs. Its not what you think

This.  There is a common misconception that some fanbases have truly rabid fans across the board, and for the most part it's simply not true for several reasons.  Attend an away game and see for yourself.

It's mostly simple economics.  NFL tickets are expensive, and a certain percentage of fans that can afford the tickets are there to be seen and post pictures on social media, not to truly get loud.  A lot of the hardcore fans you see on TV are cherry-picked by the camera to promote the image they want.

Also, BOA would sound much louder had it been a dome or designed differently.  BOA was designed to optimize the view of all fans, not to create more noise like Seattle's stadium or others.  I think the fans at BOA are generating comparable noise, but how it's transmitted down to the field level is a function of how the stadium is constructed.

Longer established, bigger markets, and success (especially recent success) also contribute to the perception of the fan base.  The "average" fan attending a game is not necessarily as devoted to someone who frequents a message board.

The Panthers fanbase has improved dramatically in the past 5 years.  Cam Newton, winning, and being longer established all play a part.  I think the Panthers fanbase overall is very representative of most other fan bases.

Most of the other teams with "better" fans are bigger markets so they inherently have more fans based on population alone and will accordingly have more "hardcore" fans.  The idea that the Panthers don't have good fans is simply not true by any objective measure.

 

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