Why not roll Cam out of the pocket to throw?

[Darth Biscuit]

If Cam is our franchise guy (he is) I have no explanation as to why we've kept Shula.  It makes zero sense to me that we couldn't have found an OC that was capable of utilizing Cam's strengths  (besides running him every down).

[pstall]

I have been calling for roll outs and screens for a few years now.

[Doc Holiday]

3 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

 

Watching Dallas roll Dak out of the pocket to compete passes.

Rolling a QB out from time to time has always been a way to counter QB pressure in the NFL

Why is this never used by the Panthers?

 

this is the same as when I ragged about why were we not throwing slant passes all season long till KC, I really dont understand sometimes what Shula is thinking.

[cookinbrak]

I would like to see a designed roll out with Ginn going deep. Just throw it hard and let Ted run under it.

[philit99]

4 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

 

Watching Dallas roll Dak out of the pocket to compete passes.

Rolling a QB out from time to time has always been a way to counter QB pressure in the NFL

Why is this never used by the Panthers?

 

I asked the same question while watching the Super Bowl last year. The fact is, rolling Cam to either side would require the Tackles to keep their blockers engaged. I am not so sure we wouldn't be rolling Cam right into a DE. It is the only logic I can think of. I'm sure our Offensive Coaches have thought of this right? They are getting paid I presume. <- Nevermind!

[csx]

When he does the opponent takes the opportunity to clobber him.

[csx]

1 hour ago, philit99 said:

I asked the same question while watching the Super Bowl last year. The fact is, rolling Cam to either side would require the Tackles to keep their blockers engaged. 

Keep their blockers engaged?  the tacles are the blockers.

[philit99]

41 minutes ago, csx said:

Keep their blockers engaged?  the tacles are the blockers.

lol great point. I meant keep the Defensive Ends engaged my bad.

[tiger7_88]

4 hours ago, KillerKat said:

"But we mustn't invest in tackle! They're all busts!" /huddle logic

Well I, above all, would LOVE to see Cam have competent-to-great OT's protecting the outside rush.

But I also don't see any need in "investing" for the sake of investing.  If you're not UPGRADING, "investing" is just a symbolic waste of money.

[tiger7_88]

4 hours ago, beastson said:

I've come to realization that although we need a new OC with a new system, we're not going to get it because Ron is the puppet master and that's why Shula is still the OC.

This x1000.

There's no need to fire Shula if you're not showing Ron the door at the same time.  Why?  Because what Shula does is exactly what Ron wants in an OC.  So even if we fired Shula, if we didn't fire Rivera, we'd just end up getting the same thing with a different name.

[csx]

So, to the point of the question. In what I've found I can't see any mention of rolling out whether it be a bootleg or naked boot to be a response to pressure. I do see mention of it as a way to confuse dbs or as a technique for short qbs or qbs without a strong arm. 

I don't think it's done to counter pressure.

[FootballLivesMatter]

7 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

 

Watching Dallas roll Dak out of the pocket to compete passes.

Rolling a QB out from time to time has always been a way to counter QB pressure in the NFL

Why is this never used by the Panthers?

 

Atlanta did it with Michael Vick. Questioned this since Cam and Shula's first day together. Never happened. Shula loves to run Cam straight in the middle on 2nd, 3rd and 4th downs tho.

[Vagrant]

Our guards and tackles can't get out of the starting pins early enough to move the pocket. It would be suicide with a patchwork offensive line. 

[csx]

7 minutes ago, FootballLivesMatter said:

Atlanta did it with Michael Vick. Questioned this since Cam and Shula's first day together. Never happened. Shula loves to run Cam straight in the middle on 2nd, 3rd and 4th downs tho.

Maybe because Vick is short