For those interested, we are in the 11th spot now

[top dawg]

Yeah I'm watching our draft position very closely.  A marked amount of movement can happen in these last couple of weeks, but suffice it to say that those hoping for us to lose to raise our draft position likely will be getting coal in their stockings this year.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/12/18/14001084/2017-nfl-draft-order-browns-49ers-jaguars-eagles

At this point, you can probably kiss the top O-linemen and/or top DBs goodbye.  Fournette is still in play in my estimation.

[Ivan The Awesome]

Like I stated before we're picking in the teens. This team always has moral victories in December when they are out of the playoffs and always distances themseselves from a top ten pick. That's annoying as hell when you have a chance to actually better your team with a higher pick. Playing spoiler to the skins is fun though. I guess Josh Norman spoke too soon about who's going to the playoffs. lol. 

[chknwing]

why are we talking about the draft when carolina is mathematically still in the playoff hunt. :)

[raleigh-panther]

Yes the team needs an infusion in several places and odds are they will have a top 15 pick...I am sure there will be a DT their for Gettleman.

...but, damn, it feels great to feel great today and to see the Pamthers play great, have fun, and beat the team, and owner, and fan base that I hate more than any other AND possibly knock that team out of the playoffs.  Priceless

nothing could be finer then the silence of HTTR after a Panthers  football game.

 

[nctarheel0619]

I think we lose to the Falcons and beat the Bucs.  So, that would put us in the 7-11 range.  Fournette is still a possibility in that range.  

[PantherPhann89]

4 minutes ago, chknwing said:

why are we talking about the draft when carolina is mathematically still in the playoff hunt. :)

Because the math for us to make the playoffs is almost mathematically impossible...

[Ivan The Awesome]

1 minute ago, nctarheel0619 said:

I think we lose to the Falcons and beat the Bucs.  So, that would put us in the 7-11 range.  Fournette is still a possibility in that range.  

We're not losing to the falcons. This team is playing like fire. Besides. We owe them for last year. 

[Ivan The Awesome]

8 minutes ago, chknwing said:

why are we talking about the draft when carolina is mathematically still in the playoff hunt. :)

...stop it. 

[Catufb85]

And its going to continue to lower as I am not one for playing for draft picks.  Losing for draft picks is a loser's mentality and a losing franchise does that.  We have changed the culture of our organization.  We are out for blood and we are out to win games one to destroy playoff dreams for others and also to carry momentum into next season.  Players are playing for their jobs, future contracts, pride, and also we are playing 2 division rivals to finish the season.

Play to win the game!

[truthjuice]

Even if we lose out on top draft picks, can we do what we need in FA? Also, I don't like this whole "losing for a top pick" because as stated above, that's a loser mentality. I do not believe in tanking the season. Even missing the playoffs, finish with a .500 record and have pride.

[stirs]

Need to take down draft section I suppose

[nctarheel0619]

19 minutes ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

We're not losing to the falcons. This team is playing like fire. Besides. We owe them for last year. 

Kinda hope we do.  I want another stud on this team, and I damn sure don't trust Gettlemen to find him unless he's in the Top 10.  

[JawnyBlaze]

I'm less worried about draft position than I am keeping the shitty coaches that are holding us back because we managed to pull off a few late season wins like in 2013. 

[top dawg]

Just now, JawnyBlaze said:

I'm less worried about draft position than I am keeping the shitty coaches that are holding us back because we managed to pull off a few late season wins like in 2013. 

This is a valid concern, particularly based on Rivera's history. I've said a few times in so many words that I believe Rivera's biggest weakness is holding on to Shula for dear life, and this may just get Rivera fired. I hope Ron does the right thing (because to the dismay of many, Rivera ain't going anywhere anytime in the near future).