Could Jonathan Allen Fall to 8

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We Do Not Need Another Defensive Tackle. Fug

[Saca312]

Imho, he'd be like Greg Hardy if we draft him, maybe slightly better.

If he falls to us, no doubt about it; pull the trigger.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Icebox said:

If he's there at 8, you should definitely pull the trigger. I think you usually want to draft the guy falling down the boards than the guy unexpectedly surging at the last minute because long-term assessments are usually more reliable.

I wonder if anyone has done an analysis of that before: whether teams fare better reaching based on expectations or falling based on expectation... One guy I can think of is Aaron Rogers. Predicted to go top 5... slips all the way to almost the end of the first round. Lots of people questioned the move because they had Favre, but It ended up being a phenomenal pick for the Packers. Another guy: Randy Moss, but he fell for character concerns, not talent assessment. Counterargument: Randy Gregory.

Pickles

[csx]

Every single player will be selected in the top 7

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Just now, csx said:

Every single player will be selected in the top 7

I thought I made this abundantly clear

[Saca312]

Found a mock with us getting Allen somehow:

http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/01/2017_nfl_mock_draft_buffalo_bills_deshaun_watson_corey_davis.html

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8. Carolina Panthers - Jonathan Allen, defensive lineman, Alabama

The Panthers could use more help on the defensive line, and Jonathan Allen is arguably the best defensive lineman in this draft. He could go much higher than this.

 

[Guest Lasus83]

Peppers was constantly reported to have a playing weight around and in excess of 300 when he was here.

A lot has to go right for him to slip to 8... and Im not 100% on the Allen train... he wasn't a clowney-esque world beater in last nights game

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3 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Found a mock with us getting Allen somehow:

http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/01/2017_nfl_mock_draft_buffalo_bills_deshaun_watson_corey_davis.html

 

Malik Hooker over Jonathan Allen?  If I were a diehard Jaguars fan, gun barrel would be in mouth with hammer back.  Enjoy that $hit show London.

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5 minutes ago, Lasus83 said:

Peppers was constantly reported to have a playing weight around and in excess of 300 when he was here.

A lot has to go right for him to slip to 8... and Im not 100% on the Allen train... he wasn't a clowney-esque world beater in last nights game

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Neither was KK Short in the Super Bowl and most of this, his contract year.

[PrimeTimeHeel]

Allen is a 3tech DT. He doesn't get around the edge quick enough as a DE. 

Would rather have Barnett is we talking DE

 

[Guest Lasus83]

Allen is a 3tech DT. He doesn't get around the edge quick enough as a DE. 

[/url] Would rather have Barnett is we talking DE

 

The more I look at it, the more I come to believe Barnett may be the DL player if not the best defender to come out of this draft.

Garret is hands down the most physically gifted... but Barnett plays with a passion, work ethic and leadership that are so very important.

And Alabama players... well, it is hard to tell if it is them or who they play with/for.

I am still 100% on the Fournette train as I think he has the potential to be truly great... but if he is gone, or if the FO decides such, Barnett is a guy who would just thrill the crap out of me.

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[E CaT PanTHer 2]

i think san diego snags allen right before us. 

pair him up with bosa. dizzzammn ... that's a lethal duo

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9 minutes ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

i think san diego snags allen right before us. 

pair him up with bosa. dizzzammn ... that's a lethal duo

Might not be calling them San Diego much longer.  Those losers couldn't even beat the Browns.  Now they're way behind the off-season evaluation 8 ball without a coach and the most important thing of all-a place to call home with a political firestorm and possible move imminent.  Throw in the fact that they took a RB and DE in the most recent drafts and I feel pretty good about them not playing spoiler to our master plan in April.  

[JawnyBlaze]

I just watched my first breakdown of his, vs Auburn.  Not gonna make a final opinion based off one game but I wasn't impressed.  His was the slowest burst off the snap I've ever seen. Like he was standing in wet concrete.  Seems like it takes a long time for the signal to go from eyes to brain that it's time to move.  He got a few plays in, but he was stonewalled a lot and as often by one guy as by double teams.  As of now, do not want even if he could transition to DE and DEFINITELY not as another bench warming DT.