Mel Kiper Mock 1.0: Leonard Fournette be a Panther.

[Malt Liquor]

15 minutes ago, Yaboychris28 said:

Watch us draft Reuben Foster, sounds like the most gettleman-esque player in the top 10

Not saying he not a gifted player, but I would be pissed if Gettleman did some $hit like that.

[KB_fan]

3 hours ago, Soul Rebel said:

Whether it's Fournette, Barnett, Hooker or Allen..... we will get a franchise building block at a position of need. Moving down, IMO, puts us in the next tier of talent.  Though it is still solid, we truly have a chance to land a top tier talent to our roster..... something we haven't had since Luke, and also a draft slot I doubt we will see for quite a few years. 

Agree with this.  Especially if we have that 3rd round comp pick due to Josh Norman leaving, I don't think G'man will or should trade down.  Dave won't give up a hopefully very rare chance to draft in the top 10.  With the talent on our roster, we should ALWAYS be picking in the 20s or 30s, so this is a chance I'm sure Gettleman wants to savor and knock out of the park.  I think Quality matters more than quantity.  We don't have THAT many holes or openings for starters on our roster.

Depending on who we get in FA, in the draft I see 5-6 positions we should aim for (not nec in order of priority)

1) OT

2) DE

3) S

4) RB / FB

5) TE

6) WR maybe if the right guy is there... (a speedy slot guy),

And, maybe more CB depth (nickel)

A few months ago, I would have put Center high on the list too, to groom someone behind Kalil, but perhaps Larsen could be that guy.  His strong showing when both Kalil & Gradkowski landed on IR was one of the few positives of this season....

[AU-panther]

3 hours ago, Soul Rebel said:

I really hope we don't move down from 8. I really want Adams, but logically, I don't see a scenario in which he is available at 8. He's one of those "has it all/low risk/top players" in this draft and could fit a few teams picking before us. If he is sitting there, I see no way in which Carolina doesn't run the card up to the podium lightning fast. 

So, of the options that are realistically available, we should be able to select a stud at 8.

Whether it's Fournette, Barnett, Hooker or Allen..... we will get a franchise building block at a position of need. Moving down, IMO, puts us in the next tier of talent.  Though it is still solid, we truly have a chance to land a top tier talent to our roster..... something we haven't had since Luke, and also a draft slot I doubt we will see for quite a few years. 

 

1 hour ago, Leeroy Jenkins PhD said:

All of you arguing against trading down,  let me propose a scenario.  Let's say the front office likes 4 or 5 players at 8. For arguments sake,  Fournette,  Peppers,  Adams,  Hooker,  and Williams.  Now,  we have them all similarly graded.   Our turn to pick comes and all 5 (or 4/5) are available.   There was a run on CBs,  QBs,  or DTs or something. Why the hell wouldn't we trade down to 12 or 13 and pick up an extra second or 3rd round choice?  We're still guaranteed a player we value.  And we get additional selections.   

The other thing that could happen is that all of the players that the team has in that first tier are gone.  Would be another reason to draft down.

I agree if one of those top players fall to us then you take them and consider yourself lucky, but if they are gone then trading down becomes a really viable option.  How those tiers are populated most of us will never know. 

Tier 1: players 1-5

Tier 2: players 6-12

or

Tier 1: players 1-3

Tier 2: players 4-8

Tier 3: players 9-12

Personally I think something like Fournette, Adams, Garrett, and Allen might be our top tier, but who knows.

[Yaboychris28]

42 minutes ago, Malt Liquor said:

Not saying he not a gifted player, but I would be pissed if Gettleman did some $hit like that.

exactly my point lol

[CatMan72]

Like others, I don't see Barnett lasting till the end of the first round, PFF mocks us to take him 8th. 

[Kevin Greene]

7 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Welp, this settles it. It isn't Fournette.

Unequivocable proof, good.

[Yaboychris28]

until the NFL combine is over, mock drafts are pretty much a crap shoot time waster 

[Nails]

12 minutes ago, Yaboychris28 said:

until the NFL combine is over, mock drafts are pretty much a crap shoot time waster 

They're a waste even then but what else do fans have?  I doubt the combine changes too much however.  Some tweaks but the word and film of months and years on these guys is already out.

[h0llywood]

8 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

I don't see Fournette getting past Jacksonville but I can hope

Every player drafted by Jacksonville last year was a defensive player (except for 6th round QB no name). I wouldn't doubt it if they did go offense. 

[MV%doe]

6 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins PhD said:

All of you arguing against trading down,  let me propose a scenario.  Let's say the front office likes 4 or 5 players at 8. For arguments sake,  Fournette,  Peppers,  Adams,  Hooker,  and Williams.  Now,  we have them all similarly graded.   Our turn to pick comes and all 5 (or 4/5) are available.   There was a run on CBs,  QBs,  or DTs or something. Why the hell wouldn't we trade down to 12 or 13 and pick up an extra second or 3rd round choice?  We're still guaranteed a player we value.  And we get additional selections.   

In this ultra unlikely scenario that five players have the same exact grade AND fill a need, go for it. 

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

52 minutes ago, MV%doe said:

In this ultra unlikely scenario that five players have the same exact grade AND fill a need, go for it. 

I mean,  it is never going to work out exactly like this,  but  similar grades on players and a slight gamble based on other teams needs and schemes.  

[KillerKat]

Yeah another RB is what this offense has been lacking =\

[Nails]

10 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Yeah another RB is what this offense has been lacking =\

If our RB was 100% healthy in every game we would have been 19-0 in 2015.

[emhoward]

Barnett at 31 seems to be a prediction that he'll do poor at the combine. Most have said that even though he has great on field performance, his measurable and agility numbers won't be all that impressive. All that said, no way he lasts all the way to 31.