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SS Calvin Pryor, Jets, '14 #18 overall pick, likely available via trade

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Nice link finds Nails!  

Pryor was the guy I wanted for the Jets in that draft class. He was a physically punishing SAF coming out of Louisville. Struggled with injuries as a rookie, and then Sexy Rexy's dumb ass played him at FS.  Pryor's skills are misused, IMO as a FS roamer. He would pair so well beside Coleman and the way we like to use our SS position. He does take some bad angles at times and his technique is still not complete. With our new DC being a former molder of defensive backs, I think a change of scenery would be good for Pryor. 

If we could get him for a 5th, I'd be cool with it.... or somehow acquire a late 4th. 

Dude has been a disappointment so far, but again, his surrounding cast has been aging/weak DBs and a defensive scheme that has been in constant flux (as well as a coaching staff).  Get him out of NY and with something to no prove after being traded, and I think we see a changed player.

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21 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

For the Panthers this offseason? ---  SS is 1a, 1b or 1c for me. I think we need a LT, DE and SS equally as bad. LT seems the most important, but with the least amount of impact options available. SS would be a close second with a pass rushing edge DE right behind that. I go back and forth on these 3 positions, but for me a complimentary young SS beside Coleman would solidify our defense.

Nah, I'm talking in general NFL team building, in overall value terms. Example: #1-QB, #2-DE/3-4OLB, #3-LT etc etc. Where would you put SS on a value ranking?

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21 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

Nice link finds Nails!  

Pryor was the guy I wanted for the Jets in that draft class. He was a physically punishing SAF coming out of Louisville. Struggled with injuries as a rookie, and then Sexy Rexy's dumb ass played him at FS.  Pryor's skills are misused, IMO as a FS roamer. He would pair so well beside Coleman and the way we like to use our SS position. He does take some bad angles at times and his technique is still not complete. With our new DC being a former molder of defensive backs, I think a change of scenery would be good for Pryor. 

If we could get him for a 5th, I'd be cool with it.... or somehow acquire a late 4th. 

Dude has been a disappointment so far, but again, his surrounding cast has been aging/weak DBs and a defensive scheme that has been in constant flux (as well as a coaching staff).  Get him out of NY and with something to no prove after being traded, and I think we see a changed player.

When I watch this simple two minute video I see one-on-one individual matchups won by Pryor against OBJ, Dez, Watt, Witten, and Gronk.

 

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4 hours ago, Soul Rebel said:

The Jets are my other team, so getting Calvin Pryor would make me happy on both sides. 

Where did you see that he's available??

Pryor has not been the issue in NY... the weak CB play and lack of pass rush from the LBs is more to blame. Combined with a mediocre offense that can't keep the defense off the field, and you have a recipe for disaster. 

You don't get to have two teams here....

Absolutely horrible job of letting Panthers fans who have no clue what it's like to have "two teams" and never care to know what it's like.

Regardless, we need a way to move Coleman back to his natural position as it was obvious that our set-up this season failed. 

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I would be totally shocked if we do not address SS in free agency or trade--I do not see a good draft at the position, fwiw.  Sure, Adams is nice, but after that--meh.

I am also pretty confident (pre combine knowledge)  we go OT and DE in the first two rounds. 

 

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5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Free agency is going to have a few good SS candidates, but if we want to secure a solid starter for a 4th rounder or less, I think it would be a good thing.

PLUS the ever important rookie salary for at least a year and maybe more with the 5th year option. Opens the door WAY up with a ton of cash and draft ammo to meet other needs in a BIG way.

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13 minutes ago, Nails said:

PLUS the ever important rookie salary for at least a year and maybe more with the 5th year option. Opens the door WAY up with a ton of cash and draft ammo to meet other needs in a BIG way.

Good point.  A DE, OT, or QB on a second contract is very expensive.  All players in the first round are not equal--even if the talent level and need are equal.

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I'd take a long hard look at Pryor. I really liked him in college. I don't watch the Jets much so I don't know if it's a scheme thing or what his issue is but the Jets don't exactly do a great job at developing talent. 

I'd toss them a 3rd if I had to. Assuming we address the DE position this offseason we don't exactly need to break the bank at the S position with a strong front 7. Acquiring a guy like Pryor for a 3rd and using the money elsewhere would be wiser IMO.

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