Panthers 20-1 to win next year's Super Bowl

[SgtJoo]

The 20-1 odds the Panthers are given to win the Super Bowl, which put them right behind most of this year's playoff teams, indicate that the oddsmakers agree with Carolina coach Ron Rivera that missing the playoffs this season was a "blip" and not a trend. The nucleus of the team that went 17-2 (including playoffs) and reached the Super Bowl in 2015 remains largely intact. A more experienced secondary to go with more than $33 million to spend under the salary cap give Carolina a reasonable shot at contending for the title next season. -- David Newton

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/32for32x170124/way-too-early-super-bowl-lii-odds-every-nfl-team-2017

[truthjuice]

Hmm

[RumHam]

Shula.

[Byrdman4real]

fuging shula

[mc52beast]

Hate to say It but it's going to be hard to get past the Falcons and win the division. They have an offense that's averaging almost 40 a game and a defense that reminds me a little of the Seahawks d when they were relevant.

If Ron doesn't turn his offense into a product of the 21st century we may not even get a wild card.

[Kakarot]

2 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Hate to say It but it's going to be hard to get past the Falcons and win the division. They have an offense that's averaging almost 40 a game and a defense that reminds me a little of the Seahawks d when they were relevant.

If Ron doesn't turn his offense into a product of the 21st century we may not even get a wild card.

That's the scary thing. That defense of theirs is going to get better.

[arbnranger]

If I do my math correct, seems worth a hundo to win 2 large. (Trying out my gambling jargon)

[TheRed]

Should have been contending for a title this season.

Makes me sick thinking about how badly our staff/front office dropped the ball.

[FuFuLamePoo]

5 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Hate to say It but it's going to be hard to get past the Falcons and win the division. They have an offense that's averaging almost 40 a game and a defense that reminds me a little of the Seahawks d when they were relevant.

If Ron doesn't turn his offense into a product of the 21st century we may not even get a wild card.

People probably said the same about us last year.  Let's see if they fall off any when Shanahan leaves.  A lot can change in this league very quickly

[truthjuice]

6 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Hate to say It but it's going to be hard to get past the Falcons and win the division. They have an offense that's averaging almost 40 a game and a defense that reminds me a little of the Seahawks d when they were relevant.

If Ron doesn't turn his offense into a product of the 21st century we may not even get a wild card.

God this makes me shiver. But if Shanahan leaves, what does that do their offense? 

Whats certain is that Gettleman, Ron and the rest of the staff can't do what's necessary to contend, we might as well enjoy just making it the wild cards every other year. In an organization that's perfectly okay with mediocracy, I'm not too hopeful. 

[TheRed]

I wouldn't worry too much about getting past the Falcons. This is a rivalry, we're going to be right there with them either way. It's always been a dogfight between these two teams.

[Saca312]

1 hour ago, mc52beast said:

Hate to say It but it's going to be hard to get past the Falcons and win the division. They have an offense that's averaging almost 40 a game and a defense that reminds me a little of the Seahawks d when they were relevant.

If Ron doesn't turn his offense into a product of the 21st century we may not even get a wild card.

We got to the Superbowl in 2015 with Remmers and Oher as our tackles, and Ted Ginn as our number 1 receiver.

I can tell you, as long as our o-line is healthy, the sky's the limit. Our defense is getting better as well, and with a good safety plugged in we'll have the most stout defense by far in the NFC South.

If we even get guys like Fournette, Leggett, and such on our offense, we got one of the league's top offenses as well.

[Saca312]

18 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Don't take all the blame away from the players as well. 4 lost on just missed FGs and another couple on pick 6s/1st and goal INTs. Even with all the injuries and bad decisions, we still should have made the playoffs.

6/10 games lost by 3 points or less. 6 games with a 4th Q lead as well I believe

[Bronn]

2 hours ago, TheRed said:

Should have been contending for a title this season.

Makes me sick thinking about how badly our staff/front office dropped the ball.

This is happening with me too... So much so I'm debating getting a recent Madden (probably not '17) so that I can run our franchise the way it should be... lol... I've looked at '16 and '15, but can't decide what I want to do. Then on one hand I'd like to get '17 because of Cam dabbing... lol...

I haven't had a Madden since '10, and trying to go that far back and catch up to now has been meh.