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Why Carolina will have the #1 defense in 2017

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Can't see it. A few tweaks will have to be made. Next year, I believe so. Next year with the right additions it'll be a playoff team and contender. This year, I don't see anything outside of top 5 defense but top d is a big accomplishment. Kansas City, Seattle and a few others are strong. Very strong. 

NFL.com has some clickbait worth stuff, that's all this is 

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9 minutes ago, FlamFluten said:

Can't see it. A few tweaks will have to be made. Next year, I believe so. Next year with the right additions it'll be a playoff team and contender. This year, I don't see anything outside of top 5 defense but top d is a big accomplishment. Kansas City, Seattle and a few others are strong. Very strong. 

NFL.com has some clickbait worth stuff, that's all this is 

I can see it. Best front 7 in the NFL with some decent peices in the secondary. Not to Mention Wilks

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11 minutes ago, FlamFluten said:

Can't see it. A few tweaks will have to be made. Next year, I believe so. Next year with the right additions it'll be a playoff team and contender. This year, I don't see anything outside of top 5 defense but top d is a big accomplishment. Kansas City, Seattle and a few others are strong. Very strong. 

NFL.com has some clickbait worth stuff, that's all this is 

KC just lost the heart and soul of their defense in Berry. I'd agree Seattle probably has the edge over us because the division they play in has A LOT worse offenses. We are handicapped a little because other teams in our division built around offense. 

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6 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

I can see it. Best front 7 in the NFL with some decent peices in the secondary. Not to Mention Wilks

#1 defense needs better depth on the line and better package players for nickel and dime. You got Seymour from the Bills. Good inside man coverage guy. The pieces are there for the secondary depth and packages. Just needs to be coached up.  

 

The black of depth on the front 7 is terrible. That's the biggest weakness. Today's NFL needs rotation. Watch the bills this weekend. A $100mm DT playing about 50% of the defensive snaps.  

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2 minutes ago, Adb6368 said:

KC just lost the heart and soul of their defense in Berry. I'd agree Seattle probably has the edge over us because the division they play in has A LOT worse offenses. We are handicapped a little because other teams in our division built around offense. 

Seattle front four is right there with us and their secondary is best in the business.   I think it is a wash.  I do agree TB, Atl and N.O. are from more powerful offensively than SF, LAR, Arizona.  

Outside our linebackers which are the best in the business, Seatlle defense might get worn down.  Their offense looked really anemic against GB and they could be on the field much more than us.   Plus we only have to worry about New England and Miami in the AFC East and New England might be in trouble if their defensive injuries are sustained very long.

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28 minutes ago, FlamFluten said:

#1 defense needs better depth on the line and better package players for nickel and dime. You got Seymour from the Bills. Good inside man coverage guy. The pieces are there for the secondary depth and packages. Just needs to be coached up.  

 

The black of depth on the front 7 is terrible. That's the biggest weakness. Today's NFL needs rotation. Watch the bills this weekend. A $100mm DT playing about 50% of the defensive snaps.  

While I appreciate you trying to discuss our team in actual football talk, I have to disagree. 

Let's look at what you said part by part:

1. #1 defense needs better depth on the line -

DE depth - Peppers, Johnson, Addison, Horton, Hall which is a pretty good rotation

DL depth - Star and KK backed up by Love and Butler   how is that not deep?

LB Depth - Kuechly, Davis, Thompson, Mayo, Cash, Jacobs, Norris  Best starters in the league, and Mayo and Cash are pretty solid.

 

2. better package players for nickel and dime - 

Captain Munnerlyn is widely recognized as one of the top nickel corners in the league, not to mention Shaq wh can step back to play the buffalo nickel position

 

3. Good inside man coverage guy. - see above

 

I am just saying, don't overlook the depth just because the starters are as good as they are.

#1 defense is not out of reach of this team, as long as our safeties stay healthy.  

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34 minutes ago, FlamFluten said:

Can't see it. A few tweaks will have to be made. Next year, I believe so. Next year with the right additions it'll be a playoff team and contender. This year, I don't see anything outside of top 5 defense but top d is a big accomplishment. Kansas City, Seattle and a few others are strong. Very strong. 

NFL.com has some clickbait worth stuff, that's all this is 

Seattle plays some weak offenses but also has aging DE's, an unproven #2 CB, and a far inferior LB corps.

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38 minutes ago, FlamFluten said:

Can't see it. A few tweaks will have to be made. Next year, I believe so. Next year with the right additions it'll be a playoff team and contender. This year, I don't see anything outside of top 5 defense but top d is a big accomplishment. Kansas City, Seattle and a few others are strong. Very strong. 

NFL.com has some clickbait worth stuff, that's all this is 

I think Peter Schrager really does like the Panthers.

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45 minutes ago, FlamFluten said:

#1 defense needs better depth on the line and better package players for nickel and dime. You got Seymour from the Bills. Good inside man coverage guy. The pieces are there for the secondary depth and packages. Just needs to be coached up.  

 

The black of depth on the front 7 is terrible. That's the biggest weakness. Today's NFL needs rotation. Watch the bills this weekend. A $100mm DT playing about 50% of the defensive snaps.  

You should look up our d-line since you know so much about us

Btw our first round pick of 2016 on the dline is coming back from injury

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Yes. Maybe not by statistical metrics if our offense can't sustain drives like in years past (the end of last game offered hope though) but in terms of which defense is the toughest to go against, yes. 

I'd like to have a true elite every down DE but I still think we can be the best.

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