Enough Doom and Gloom - JAX/CAR 2015

[Daddy_Uncle]

11 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

cam was awful today. he can and will settle down.

shula is a known quantity. he is a turd.

Exactly Cam misses passes from time to time. Every QB does. Not every QB in the league is asked to over compensate for an offensive coordinator 100% incapable of doing their job. 

[GoobyPls]

Go rewatch that game, Cam played great but we had 7 drops and our pass rush was absolutely putrid. Now you compare that with this disaster and which we can't even score a TD on a defense full of unknown young players. The god damn jets offense looks better than ours 

[jfra78]

1 hour ago, stankowalski said:

Just curious...how would you and other people have felt if Cam had not overthrown simple passes to CMC and Dickson for TD's?  We can't keep missing plays like those that are basic gimme's.  

I get all the Shula hate, hell every fanbase does this...hell we did it on our way to the Superbowl.  But fuging up simple gimme plays like the ones I mentioned (and there are others) will undo us more than any of Shula's playcalling.

The overthrow to Dickson was no Gimmie.  Cam had to escape a sack, which most Qbs would have taken, and throw on the run. Cam can make that throw yes, but not a gimmie.  The CMC pass should not have happened.  1st and goal from the 1 you run it straight ahead 3 times in a row, no need to get cute and sweep there. So that play would have been fixed by playcalling.  Other than those 2 plays cam was on point and made good decisions.

[crowntownpanther]

35 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

The overthrow to Dickson was no Gimmie.  Cam had to escape a sack, which most Qbs would have taken, and throw on the run. Cam can make that throw yes, but not a gimmie.  The CMC pass should not have happened.  1st and goal from the 1 you run it straight ahead 3 times in a row, no need to get cute and sweep there. So that play would have been fixed by playcalling.  Other than those 2 plays cam was on point and made good decisions.

You're right on the Dickson overthrow.  The CMC play was actually a good call, one of the few.  Sorry Cam, much love, that's on you.

[jfra78]

6 minutes ago, crowntownpanther said:

You're right on the Dickson overthrow.  The CMC play was actually a good call, one of the few.  Sorry Cam, much love, that's on you.

The CMC play was a good call, and was a bad throw.  My point is that the 1st and goal call was horrid and if shula called a better play up the middle, then that bad throw wouldn't have happened

[crowntownpanther]

17 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

The CMC play was a good call, and was a bad throw.  My point is that the 1st and goal call was horrid and if shula called a better play up the middle, then that bad throw wouldn't have happened

Playing devil's advicate here, but if we had run stew up the middle and gotten stuffed, would we not still be blaming Shula for predictable offense?  Cam up the middle over and over.  I guess my point is no matter what Shula will take blame.  Sometimes he deserves it, others the defense just has a good break on the ball.  Good news is no other team has better info on us than buffalo, and we still won.

[jfra78]

1 minute ago, crowntownpanther said:

Playing devil's advicate here, but if we had run stew up the middle and gotten stuffed, would we not still be blaming Shula for predictable offense?  Cam up the middle over and over.  I guess my point is no matter what Shula will take blame.  Sometimes he deserves it, others the defense just has a good break on the ball.  Good news is no other team has better info on us than buffalo, and we still won.

Yeap 2-0 on to saints

[Salisburysean98]

4 hours ago, OldNorthPowell said:

We also lost in the SB, and Denver exposed Shula's offense for everyone to see. Haven't been the same team since. Shula is the problem. 2 TDs in 2 games. 

Don't forget they exposed the right Tackle remmers. Now we have two problems, right and left tackle. 

[L-TownCat]

4 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Shula deserves a lot of blame today.

However, I will admit execution also killed us once again. 

You're a film guy.  Go pull up the miss throws to CMC and Dickson.  Take a look at down and distance and context.  

Dickson was a broken play iirc, and CMC was a forced 3rd down throw after 2 failed attempts to run up the gut against a really good front.

They should have been completed yes, but if the game were called better we wouldn't have been in those situations.

We need to execute, that's the job of the players, but the coaches HAVE to put guys in the right positions.

[BIGH2001]

The offensive line looked about 100 times better with Ryan Kalil in last week.  Then we lost Olsen early in the game.  This was a shitty offensive performance but not ready to throw it all away yet, especially at 2-0 with a winnable game coming up this week.