Guess How Predictable The Panthers Running Game Is?

[Icege]

42 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Why point out that you don't have a clue. Now ask me has Stewart scored a TD on the ground or the air?  Did you see the pass to Stewart he dropped over the middle against Buffalo? And did you see how we ran CMC between the tackles several times in 2 games?

Well if you did then you would stop making stupid threads saying we are too predictable and only use players one way or the other. Because if that is what you think you clearly have an agenda or don't know what you are talking about.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000842664/Can-t-Miss-Play-Jonathan-Stewart-gets-BIG-AIR-on-9-yard-TD

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000842976/Christian-McCaffrey-highlights-Week-1 1:30 - 2:05

[pantherclaw]

Ask ANY defensive coach, what is harder to defend, the run or pass. Every one will say the run.  Run plays are the hardest plays to defend.  Even if the defense knows it's coming, if the oline, fb, te, & receivers do their part, executing, and getting to their blocks, than the run will still be successful. 

This is why the first goal of any defense, is to stop the run, making an offense one dimensional - and easier to defend.

[panthers55]

1 minute ago, Icege said:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000842664/Can-t-Miss-Play-Jonathan-Stewart-gets-BIG-AIR-on-9-yard-TD

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000842976/Christian-McCaffrey-highlights-Week-1 1:30 - 2:05

So what is your point? That we use Stewart only to run up the middle? We should use him more in screens because he scored on one because the offense was focused on CMC and Drew the coverage off Stewart or what? I saw the same plays just wonder why you posted them.

[pantherclaw]

We also have the most diverse running game in the league. Has been for years. With, or without Cam. 

We just added CMC. 

Just like I said we would, we are running the ball now more than ever. As we should since Cam's still trying to get right. 

[Icege]

2 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

So what is your point? That we use Stewart only to run up the middle? We should use him more in screens because he scored on one because the offense was focused on CMC and Drew the coverage off Stewart or what? I saw the same plays just wonder why you posted them.

 

51 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Why point out that you don't have a clue. Now ask me has Stewart scored a TD on the ground or the air?  Did you see the pass to Stewart he dropped over the middle against Buffalo? And did you see how we ran CMC between the tackles several times in 2 games?

Well if you did then you would stop making stupid threads saying we are too predictable and only use players one way or the other. Because if that is what you think you clearly have an agenda or don't know what you are talking about.

So... you weren't saying that JStew couldn't catch when coming out of the backfield while under center? 

[Ace_Aladdin]

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

We also have the most diverse running game in the league. Has been for years. With, or without Cam. 

We just added CMC. 

Just like I said we would, we are running the ball now more than ever. As we should since Cam's still trying to get right. 

Just need to have both guys on the field at the same time and mix up the play calling where they both run and catch pass not just either or 

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, TheRed said:

Exactly what I said in the CMC panic thread.

Our play design is awful, and it hampers our offense even more when we can't even get the play call in without burning a timeout. Then you add our issues along the OL. It's surprising our offense has been able to function much at all.

This is what happened last year, people said Stewart stopped being effective, but it was clear we were not calling plays to our own players advantages. No RB is going to be able to get much room to work with under these circumstances.

and that's at home.

smh

[iamhubby1]

32 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

It's Friday and I already know we'll be opening up Sundays game with a handoff to Stewart 

 

    Imagine that. A running team, opening the game with a running play. 

 

    It really seems as though there are a lot of folks around here don't realize who they are watching. They want the Panthers to be like Madden, and I am afraid that is not going to happen.

 

    We are not going to Air it out. We are a Defensive minded team, that wants to impose their will on the opponent. Being physical, and running the ball not only does that, but it also shortens the game. Some teams will get frustrated by that approach, and start to press. That can lead to mistakes, which is another byproduct of how we run our Offense.

 

     Rivera has a winning record with this approach. And apparently, that is just not good enough for a lot of folks. Really, just ask them.

[ecu88]

How about we all compromise and just use the Pistol? Not too close to center but not too far either. 

[*FreeFua*]

2 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Imagine that. A running team, opening the game with a running play. 

 

    It really seems as though there are a lot of folks around here don't realize who they are watching. They want the Panthers to be like Madden, and I am afraid that is not going to happen.

 

    We are not going to Air it out. We are a Defensive minded team, that wants to impose their will on the opponent. Being physical, and running the ball not only does that, but it also shortens the game. Some teams will get frustrated by that approach, and start to press. That can lead to mistakes, which is another byproduct of how we run our Offense.

 

     Rivera has a winning record with this approach. And apparently, that is just not good enough for a lot of folks. Really, just ask them.

Yeah because it's open up with a run play or you must be playing madden 

[iamhubby1]

7 minutes ago, sanjay_rajput said:

Just need to have both guys on the field at the same time and mix up the play calling where they both run and catch pass not just either or 

 

    With a 2 TE set as well? Right?  Lol. Just giving you a hard time. I will say though, once you sink your teeth into an idea, you never let it go. I shall from this time forward, call you "Pitbull". 

[stankowalski]

I'd wager that most teams probably pass 70% of the time out of shotgun.  

[PantherPhann89]

I agree that defenses know what we're doing. I would say this; our runs aren't being sold. The look, the line-up, the personnel shouts run. For instance, the Rams on Thursday night [9/21], ram a play on the goal line by motioning the right WR/TE left/inside for run support as they ran up the middle. They later ran another play, with the exact same personnel and set-up, only this time the QB hit a slant to one of the two WR on the left.

I believe it was Rivera that said we aren't trying to outsmart our opponents. 

[iamhubby1]

2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Yeah because it's open up with a run play or you must be playing madden 

 

    Yupperz. Cuz teh foozball is just that simple.

 

    We are the Panthers. Maybe, just maybe, you could, you know, realize that fact. Too many fans want the Panthers' to play Madden ball. Well guess what. We don't now, nor will we in the future, or as long as RR is here anyway, play that type of football.

 

    I will say this though. It is really enjoyable reading all these wish lists type plays folks want us to run. It's like they don't even know who they are rooting for.