Firing Shula will solve nothing...

[Smithers]

I don't like Rivera.  But anyone is better than shula.  I'd take Jeff Davidson over Shula.  Rivera could surly find someone better.  

[electro's horse]

Despite what they’ve ever publicly said, chud was hurneys call, not Rivera’s. 

They were always meant to unofficially be co-head coaches. 

[mav1234]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

But then after that had the chance at Hue Jackson, and chose Shula. 

But more to the point, Rivera is just not qualified to be a head coach. He's an excellent defensive coordinator, but he does not have the skill set to be in charge. 

Shula was purportedly for continuity with Cam.  I do think Rivera prefers a certain type of offensive football, but Shula is just plain awful and I think it would make a big difference.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, mav1234 said:

Shula was purportedly for continuity with Cam.  I do think Rivera prefers a certain type of offensive football, but Shula is just plain awful and I think it would make a big difference.

Shula's play designs aren't good enough, but neither is Rivera's game management or his talent evaluation. And adjustments? Nah.

We've seen the same issues for far too long. 

[Eazy-E]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

... if you don't also fire Rivera. 

The head coach is in charge of hiring assistants. Left to his own devices, Rivera will hire another OC just like his current one (and probably from within his current staff).

This team needs a complete overhaul. GM and head coach both need to go. But sadly, even that won't be enough unless Richardson allows someone else to pick their replacements.

So essentially, don't hold your breath on things getting better. 

 

Firing Shula sends a message to the team that we’re not going to put up with the same old mediocre bullshit.

Right now the offense looks unprepared and  uninspired.

[mav1234]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Shula's play designs aren't good enough, but neither is Rivera's game management or his talent evaluation. And adjustments? Nah.

We've seen the same issues for far too long. 

Rivera's time management is beyond garbage, and he does a piss poor job at ensuring the offense is ready for games.  As HC, that does fall on him too.  But I do think firing him would send a message to the team, and a new OC could be a huge boon depending on the philosophy they bring in.

[ras977]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

... if you don't also fire Rivera. 

The head coach is in charge of hiring assistants. Left to his own devices, Rivera will hire another OC just like his current one (and probably from within his current staff).

This team needs a complete overhaul. GM and head coach both need to go. But sadly, even that won't be enough unless Richardson allows someone else to pick their replacements.

So essentially, don't hold your breath on things getting better. 

 

I-relucantly agree--

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

Firing Shula sends a message to the team that we’re not going to put up with the same old mediocre bullshit.

Keeping Rivera is the same old mediocre bulls--t.

[ras977]

2 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Rivera's time management is beyond garbage, and he does a piss poor job at ensuring the offense is ready for games.  As HC, that does fall on him too.  But I do think firing him would send a message to the team, and a new OC could be a huge boon depending on the philosophy they bring in.

How the hell do you have 10 days to prepare & lay a giant sized egg ?

[mav1234]

Just now, ras977 said:

How the hell do you have 10 days to prepare & lay a giant sized egg ?

by having Shula and Rivera

[KillerKat]

Make someone interim HC and make Zampese OC.

[Cuttinedge]

3 minutes ago, ras977 said:

How the hell do you have 10 days to prepare & lay a giant sized egg ?

In all fairness RRs showed a propensity for this. Which speaks volumes for his ineptitude as a HC 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Make someone interim HC and make Zampese OC.

Only realistic choice for interim is Steve Wilks. 

But the Panthers have never been a team to fire coaches mid-season. Don't really see that changing this year. 

[Semaj]

Firing Shula will solve nothing.. Unless we also Fire Rivera.  He is incompetent.  How in the hell has he won 2 coach of the year's!!!!!!!!  He's an awful game manager and his team show's up unprepared to play way to often.  We had 10 days to prepare for a 2-4 football team run by a awful game manager of a coach John Fox (whom most of us wanted fired long before he actually was). We are 0-2 against this clown.  Rivera needs to be fired now to have any hope of saving this season.  He is unable to get the most out of our roster which has several great players.