Do y'all think JR would just hand the GM job back to Hurney?

[ENC Pantherfan]

I ask because sounds like we need change and a new GM would probably be the only way, but I can't put it past me that JR would just give it to Hurney and knowing Hurney he probably would have no problem with the current staff. 

[Jon Snow]

Um he just did.

[ENC Pantherfan]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

Um he just did.

I mean on a permanent basis 

[therealmjl]

He pretty much already has

[therealmjl]

1 minute ago, ENC Pantherfan said:

I mean on a permanent basis 

If you don’t think this is permanent, I’ve got some ocean front property in Tennessee I’d like to sell you.

[tiger7_88]

Yep.

[Jon Snow]

Just now, ENC Pantherfan said:

I mean on a permanent basis 

Lol...you actually think it's temporary?  As long as JR is in charge this is what you will get.

[Snake]

He just did on a permanent basis. Only reason he isn't official because of technicalities. 

[Jangler]

[Mr. Scot]

Not even the slightest doubt. 

Honestly, I think he only reluctantly let him go the first time. Heck, his issue with Gettleman's personality could have been a convenient excuse to being Hurney back. 

[Khyber53]

My thinking is that JR saw this season coming back before training camp and he fired Gettleman and then stopped just short of cleaning house on the coaching staff because of the late date. He wasn't going into training camp with no coach as well, since most of the GM duties had already been done. He tapped Marty to come in because he would have the shortest ramp up time for the team, not because he is meant to be here permanently.

And I think the straw that broke the back was McDermott. I think Richardson wanted McDermott to stay here and take over once Rivera was shown the door. Gettleman wouldn't pull the trigger on RR, leaving McDermott to head north to Buffalo. At that point it was fire Gettleman, but too late to retain Beane, who I think would have been sitting in Marty's seat right now had things moved faster. Instead of Charlotte of the North in Buffalo, we'd have had those guys down here.

I really believe, now, that RR and Co. are dead men walking when it comes to their employment. And they know it. The team knows it. And we're just going to have to ride out the season before it all plays out. Sadly, you'd think the coaches would want to make a good impression before hitting the job market again, as well as some of the players who will be entering free agency.

Wish I could say I was wrong on all of this, but it sure does seem like the logical take on it all.

[PanthersBigD]

7 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

My thinking is that JR saw this season coming back before training camp and he fired Gettleman and then stopped just short of cleaning house on the coaching staff because of the late date. He wasn't going into training camp with no coach as well, since most of the GM duties had already been done. He tapped Marty to come in because he would have the shortest ramp up time for the team, not because he is meant to be here permanently.

And I think the straw that broke the back was McDermott. I think Richardson wanted McDermott to stay here and take over once Rivera was shown the door. Gettleman wouldn't pull the trigger on RR, leaving McDermott to head north to Buffalo. At that point it was fire Gettleman, but too late to retain Beane, who I think would have been sitting in Marty's seat right now had things moved faster. Instead of Charlotte of the North in Buffalo, we'd have had those guys down here.

I really believe, now, that RR and Co. are dead men walking when it comes to their employment. And they know it. The team knows it. And we're just going to have to ride out the season before it all plays out. Sadly, you'd think the coaches would want to make a good impression before hitting the job market again, as well as some of the players who will be entering free agency.

Wish I could say I was wrong on all of this, but it sure does seem like the logical take on it all.

Uh, this makes no sense. If Richardson wanted to fire Rivera and Gettleman and promote McDermott and Beane then he could have just done so. It's not like the owner has to follow the chain of command, when he's at the top of the chain. 

[rayzor]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not even the slightest doubt. 

Honestly, I think he only reluctantly let him go the first time. Heck, his issue with Gettleman's personality could have been a convenient excuse to being Hurney back. 

probably tin foil hat talk, but i think hurney was probably in JR's ear talking about how mean gettleman was and that he would do things better and bring back the family atmosphere. make this place happy and content (and fine with losing) again.

seriously...we had such a horrible comfortable with losing culture that took so long to overcome and i can easily see us slipping back into it again.

[jumpman910]

In a heartbeat.