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[panthers55]

The PSls make it hard to move around locally unless the PSL owners are granted seating rights to the new stadium and that isn't happening. They would either have to sell PSLs to fund the new stadium or go public which is a tough sell these days. I can tell you that I wouldn't be playing thousands of dollars again for PSLs I already paid for once. I doubt I am alone. So good luck on filling a new stadium given at least half of the old PSL owners would not pay again especially when it is likely the cost of PSLs would rise substantially to reflect the increased cost of stadium building. They will either stay put or move out of state unless it is publically funded.

[panthers55]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Then they have to go through the league process, which isn't so easy.  Again, there are criteria to be met, and the league has stated they don't want the Panthers moving.

But as was discussed in a prior thread, there is an investor who's exploring an effort to build a stadium just across the border in the Carowinds area or the site of the old Knights Stadium. That would satisfy the NFL by keeping it in the same market.

So if Charlotte says no, someone else local may just say yes.

Good luck filling a stadium if you used PSLs again to fund it. If it was publicly funded then that would work except the string of sell outs would end with the first game. Ticket prices are going to skyrocket to fund a billion dollars of debt that the current owners don't have on the books

 

[Mr. Scot]

21 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Good luck filling a stadium if you used PSLs again to fund it. If it was publicly funded then that would work except the string of sell outs would end with the first game. Ticket prices are going to skyrocket to fund a billion dollars of debt that the current owners don't have on the books

 

Maybe if we weren't guaranteed sellouts we'd work harder to build a consistent winner instead of treating the team like a family.

[RoaringRiot]

1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

Which is why I only sell my tickets to Panther fans

Where you been all year, bro? I don't remember seeing you once. 

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Maybe if we weren't guaranteed sellouts we'd work harder to build a consistent winner instead of treating the team like a family.

There is that. But it can't be easy or teams like Tampa or Miami would be working harder and they don't appear to be.

[cookinwithgas]

I know that Charlotte voters vote for City Council, believe it or not.

 

What's a BLM city council?

[Davidson Deac II]

Bacon Lettuce, and May council.  They like sandwiches.  

[raleigh-panther]

14 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

The owner can do only so much.  Fans that have season tickets and they sell them to whoever offers the most money.   Usually end up selling to the opposing team players.

I don't have season tickets so when i go to games I buy them online.  Of all the games I have been to the 2010 Cowboy game was by far the most expensive.  When the Cowboys are in town those fans that own those seats sell them and get double or more for those tickets.

I just wish they would sell them to Panther Fans.  That will never ever happen.

Sounds great but Panthers fans don't want to pay even face value

its not like the Panthers give me a discount for mine

[panthersphan]

15 hours ago, Lumps said:

It's not just opposing fans. The owners need to attract people to the stadium. They can do this a million different ways. After just getting back from the ATL game it's amazing how different other stadium envrioments are. Even the cheerleaders were so much more impressive.  10% of the stadium was Panther fans, the rest Falcons, who 90% stayed until the end of the game on a FREEZING night in ATL.

Our gametime home field environment here is Charlotte is severely outdated and lacking. It's no wonder it gets taken over.

Lol seeing games in the old GA Dome was a joke. Those fans are garbage.

 

Panther games are better, but the new stadium in Atlanta has changed their environment for sure.

 

maybe a new stadium eventually wouldn't be the worst, just hope it would stay downtown.

[Anybodyhome]

15 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Then they have to go through the league process, which isn't so easy.  Again, there are criteria to be met, and the league has stated they don't want the Panthers moving.

But as was discussed in a prior thread, there is an investor who's exploring an effort to build a stadium just across the border in the Carowinds area or the site of the old Knights Stadium. That would satisfy the NFL by keeping it in the same market.

So if Charlotte says no, someone else local may just say yes.

This is where you're incorrect. Team ownership does not need any league or other approval to demand/ask for a new stadium. Only when a team wants to relocate does the league then become involved. If the Panthers wanted to build a new stadium next to UNCC, for example, the league doesn't have any authority in a deal between the ownership and the municipality.

You should read this article on how the deals are getting done in Los Angeles...

  http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-stadium-costs-20150506-story.html

[Jangler]

21 hours ago, !stUp said:

St Louis has lost two NFL teams.  It's not happening. 

so has Los Angeles..

[cookinwithgas]

The owners are not clamoring for another team in St Louis. LA was so desirable to them they had 3 teams fighting for 2 spots (really one LOL)

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Anybodyhome said:

This is where you're incorrect. Team ownership does not need any league or other approval to demand/ask for a new stadium. Only when a team wants to relocate does the league then become involved. If the Panthers wanted to build a new stadium next to UNCC, for example, the league doesn't have any authority in a deal between the ownership and the municipality.

You should read this article on how the deals are getting done in Los Angeles...

  http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-stadium-costs-20150506-story.html

To demand a new stadium, no.

To move the team to a new city, yes. And I'm pretty sure at least 20 of 31 owners have to approve.

[Anybodyhome]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

To demand a new stadium, no.

To move the team to a new city, yes. And I'm pretty sure at least 20 of 31 owners have to approve.

24 of 32 owners must approve relocation.

And should the owners not have their demand/request for a new stadium met, that's when the league gets involved. In the case of the Rams original move to St. Louis years ago, the Raiders back & forth from Oakland to LA and the Chargers leaving San Diego- all were the result of not getting a new stadium deal.

When a new stadium deal falls apart, the teams then start looking for a new stadium suitor, terminate their lease on the existing building and then go to the league and say, "We need to move."