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Kevin Dodd

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4 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Yeah like the trade down that got Beason, CJ and Kali..smh

No, more like the trading of future 1st and 2nds for reaches on players like Everett Brown and Armanti Edwards. Hurney had one or two great drafts, and when he didn't reach, he'd usually get a great player in the 1st, but typically after the first the picks were more misses than hits. I'd say he's a middle of the pack drafter. 

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Just now, PanthersBigD said:

No, more like the trading of future 1st and 2nds for reaches on players like Everett Brown and Armanti Edwards. Hurney had one or two great drafts, and when he didn't reach, he'd usually get a great player in the 1st, but typically after the first the picks were more hit than miss. I'd say he's a middle of the pack drafter. 

Every GM has a misses but you ppl only bring up Hurney's like a religion..  Then make bold declaration like (hurney's is terribler at trades) which are just false.. He has his success and his fails.. Just like every GM in NFL history.. Especially those with 10 years in a job..

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1 hour ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

It would be an interesting move but I wouldn't give more than a 4th and since we don't have a 4th.  It would have to be something this year and next.  I don't think a 5th and 7th this year will cut it.  Maybe a 4th this year and 4th next year might?

DG gave up the 4th rounder this year  for Lee  sadly. 

I would give up this years 6& 7 and next years 4th

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1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

Every GM has a misses but you ppl only bring up Hurney's like a religion..  Then make bold declaration like (hurney's is terribler at trades) which are just false.. He has his success and his fails.. Just like every GM in NFL history.. Especially those with 10 years in a job..

He's had many more years of overall bad drafts than good. You referenced the Beason, Kalil, CJ year like it wasn't some sort of outlier. Name me two other seasons where we netted that many pro bowlers in a single Hurney draft. 

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34 minutes ago, stbugs said:

He is. Let’s trade our 3rd to see if he can figure it out.

The majority of this board falls in love with any dude that comes out of Clemson, SC or UNC.

People were wanting Dodd in the 1st that year. 

If we’re trading a third it better be for someone or to move up in the draft not for Kevin freaking Dodd

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a 3rd is way too high for him.  I get he had justifiable measurable and a nice college resume, but he has done nothing in this league, schematic difficulties aside...  I'd offer a 5th, because with a guy in his situation, your only hope is to buy low and get SOMETHING for it.

The troubling part for me is, there are plenty of guys in the league who as outside pass rushers could play both in a 3-4 or a 4-3...  in fact, I'd be willing to say the majority of guys can do it.  It's troubling that Dodd has had such little impact, regardless of fit...  at some point, your athleticism and ability should translate to some degree of production even if you're not a fit schematically.  I think this may be a case where the guy just isn't a very good pro, regardless of the scheme he is in.

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Folks on here have an unfortunate willingness to give up picks for guys that they wanted in prior drafts who haven't been working out with the teams that took them.

I'll grant that sometimes there's a mismatch, but more often than not, the reason they're not doing well is because they're not very good.

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6 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Ya think? Dodd has a good chance to be released if he doesn’t show in camp. Probably some trade bait going on anyway. No reason for the new coach to even be discussing a guy with 1 sack the last two years. 

If he's cut, I could see giving him a chance in camp. That'd be no worse than we did with guys like Ryan Delaire.

But trading for a guy who's only notched one sack over two years playing in a Dick LeBeau system?

I'd have a tough time getting behind that.

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6 hours ago, PanthersBigD said:

He's had many more years of overall bad drafts than good. You referenced the Beason, Kalil, CJ year like it wasn't some sort of outlier. Name me two other seasons where we netted that many pro bowlers in a single Hurney draft. 

Name me other GM's with multiple years of great 3 probowler  drafts?? Don't worry I'll wait..

Oh 2002 with Pep, got Spoon and Foster..

06  With Dwill got Richard Marshall and James Anderson.. Solid drafts..

How many multiple pro bowl player drafts does Gettelmen have??

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