A chance that Norwell stays?

[Mr. Scot]

Voth still sounds uncertain, but...

Reading the Tweet he's responding to, it sounds like the formula might include cutting Ryan Kalil and rolling with Tyler Larsen.

And keep in mind, we're still talking about paying Norwell a boatload of money.

[Ace_Aladdin]

Norwell is staying along with Star 

The fact Kalil is retiring means that Norwell will take over his veteran core status & cap money.

 

Kalil is good for 2018 season, Panthers are gonna phase it out not DG it.

[X-Clown on 1]

Tag Norwell this year, cut M. Kalil next year, and then use that filthy money to make it rain all over that white buffalo.

[t96]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Voth still sounds uncertain, but...

Reading the Tweet he's responding to, it sounds like the formula might include cutting Ryan Kalil and rolling with Tyler Larsen.

And keep in mind, we're still talking about paying Norwell a boatload of money.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Ryan take one for the team and take a significant pay cut so we have a much better shot of going out on top this year, with keeping Norwell. 

Norwell is the exact prototypical elite NFL player you just don't let walk. No matter how much you already have invested in the other G spot. I hope to god we can see this and keep Norwell. Protect your QB and keep elite (on the field and off) players.

[t96]

2 minutes ago, X-Clown on 1 said:

Tag Norwell this year, cut M. Kalil next year, and then use that filthy money to make it rain all over that white buffalo.

Norwell tag would be silly... Will likely be $15M for a season. Top guard money is about $10-12M/year. That's a 25% to 50% increase for the tag for one year. If we keep him it's gotta be a long term deal locking him in here for the long haul.

[RumHam]

I mean a QB who's started 7 games just got the most lucrative contract of all time. If we tag Norwell and DG wants him that bad in Jersey then we can take those picks.

[thefuzz]

Really hard to pay him when we have TD, Olsen, Kalil, Cam, Luke, and KK making such large figures...unless the cap is jumping way up.

 

And Hurney counted on that one year, and we almost couldn't sign our draft picks.

[Mr. Scot]

Voth has previously shot down any suggestions of tagging Norwell.

If we do indeed keep him, I don't think that's going to be how it happens.

Any way we go, we're talking about a lot of money tied up in our guards.

[Paa Langfart]

Who is making these moves now that Hurney has been chased off of BOA property ?

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Paa Langfart said:

Who is making these moves now that Hurney has been chased off of BOA property ?

That's actually a good question.

I would guess Rivera, and frankly the thought of Ron Rivera managing our salary cap gives me serious pause.

[LinvilleGorge]

If we're choosing between Kalil and Norwell that's a super easy decision IMO. I'll take a very good OG on a long-term contract who is only 26 years old over an injury prone center who will be 33 years old by the start of next season who has missed half his games in the past two season and carries a $10M cap hit next year.

Do we want a long-term solution or do we want a one year high priced rental who recent history says will likely miss a significant chunk of the games played?

Absolute no-brainer IMO.

[Ace_Aladdin]

9 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Really hard to pay him when we have TD, Olsen, Kalil, Cam, Luke, and KK making such large figures...unless the cap is jumping way up.

 

And Hurney counted on that one year, and we almost couldn't sign our draft picks.

Kalil, TD  are retiring after this season & if you cut other old vets like: CJ , J-Stew, Adams, Dickson, Jones etc you will free up plenty of CAP space.

[t96]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Any way we go, we're talking about a lot of money tied up in our guards.

All that really means to me is we're going to be tight on money at center and one of the tackle spots. Which is completely fine with me. Pay D. Williams, Norwell and Turner and go rookie/cheaper FA (or even Larsen?) at C and Moton at LT. We're locked in with M. Kalil for next year, but after that I think he's gone and should be.

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Voth has previously shot down any suggestions of tagging Norwell.

If we do indeed keep him, I don't think that's going to be how it happens.

Any way we go, we're talking about a lot of money tied up in our guards.

I don't think you can tag a guard. That number is just too high. Not sure why all OL are lumped into one tag figure, but they are. It costs the same to tag an OG as a it does a LT. That tag number was over $14M last season. It'll be higher this season. For reference, Trai Turner carries a $7.7M cap hit next year. We can't have franchise QB money tied up in the OG position next year.