Thomas Davis Has Been Suspended For Four Games After Testing Positive For A Banned Substance.

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, MadHatter said:

If you read the twitter it watched the video, he says it was an estrogen blocker that he has taken for years...so we actually DO know what he tested positive for.

I don’t know why he would take an estrogen blocker.....as one poster already said, diuretics and estrogen blockers are common to try and mask steroids.  Again, don’t know if this is what he was doing, but it is strange.

I know it was an estrogen blocker, but I know that binders and ingredients can be changed. I was on a medication for years with no problems then had an allergic reaction because the manufacturer changed the binder and I didn't know it. If this was a second or third time, I'd be more suspicious, for now, meh. 

[MadHatter]

3 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I know it was an estrogen blocker, but I know that binders and ingredients can be changed. I was on a medication for years with no problems then had an allergic reaction because the manufacturer changed the binder and I didn't know it. If this was a second or third time, I'd be more suspicious, for now, meh. 

Agreed....very surprising that it was not caught until now.  Either the ingrediants of it were changed (very possible)....or that it is BS and TD does not want to own it.

i am hoping it is the first.

[The Huddler]

1 minute ago, Harbingers said:

Not appealing says differently to me. He admitted guilt. Yes in his language he was pretty adiment, of his ego. But I can’t see how you say he didn’t own it.

to me this looks like a guy quickly trying to repair his image or to minimize any damage to it. 

 

I dont think his motives are as genuine as you think. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I know it was an estrogen blocker, but I know that binders and ingredients can be changed. I was on a medication for years with no problems then had an allergic reaction because the manufacturer changed the binder and I didn't know it. If this was a second or third time, I'd be more suspicious, for now, meh. 

Was it on the approved supplement list? That's all that matters. The NFL makes it very clear that the player is responsible for what he puts into his body and that's why they provide a list of supplements that have been verified by an outside lab to be free of any and all banned substances. If TD can provide proof that he was taking one of these supplements and it was indeed tainted then maybe he has a case. But, since he's not even bothering to appeal IMO that says everything that needs to be said. He either A) knows he's guilty or B) knows he has no case.

[stirs]

If not mistaken, estrogen blockers are usually taken by athletes because their testosterone levels are way too high thus bringing their estrogen levels high at the same time.  This is normally done because someone is taking extra testosterone.  Not sure where all this lands in the banned substance area, but I think this is what normally happens

[TheRed]

This situation should hit home for all Panthers fans that our core is rapidly dwindling while our division improves around us. Especially the Saints.

This is why you don't make excuses for offseason ineptitude. We should have done more to fill out our roster in 2016 and 2017. I hope we can do enough this year to stay in contention at least.

[MadHatter]

1 minute ago, The Huddler said:

to me this looks like a guy quickly trying to repair his image or to minimize any damage to it. 

 

I dont think his motives are as genuine as you think. 

He is an aging player...coming of multiple injuries that should have been career ending...trying to hold on for his last few seasons and make millions.  I don’t blame him even if he was taking something and trying to cover it up with an estrogen blocker.  It is a business and it is millions of dollars.

[steven8989]

7 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

There is no use reasoning with this guy. Hes either a good troll or he has serious emotional and mental problems. 

 

I hope to god hes not the dad of the kid in the pick and that he is the actual kid

Yeah because your the smartest doofus on here.

[Shocker]

This sucks

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, stirs said:

If not mistaken, estrogen blockers are usually taken by athletes because their testosterone levels are way too high thus bringing their estrogen levels high at the same time.  This is normally done because someone is taking extra testosterone.  Not sure where all this lands in the banned substance area, but I think this is what normally happens

Like I said earlier in this thread, estrogen blockers and diuretics are probably the two most commonly used substances to mask steroids on a drug test and it's the primary reason why those substances are banned by organizations that test for steroids.

[steven8989]

2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

This situation should hit home for all Panthers fans that our core is rapidly dwindling while our division improves around us. Especially the Saints.

This is why you don't make excuses for offseason ineptitude. We should have done more to fill out our roster in 2016 and 2017. I hope we can do enough this year to stay in contention at least.

Yeah everyone wants to say why I'm so down. Well guess what it's because damn Gettleman didn't do anything to make this team better. We are in really bad shape and everyone that thinks different can keep wishing for nothing.

[stirs]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Like I said earlier in this thread, estrogen blockers and diuretics are probably the two most commonly used substances to mask steroids on a drug test and it's the primary reason why those substances are banned by organizations that test for steroids.

I read it, I just didn't now if testosterone and steroids counted the same with the NFL

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

This situation should hit home for all Panthers fans that our core is rapidly dwindling while our division improves around us. Especially the Saints.

This is why you don't make excuses for offseason ineptitude. We should have done more to fill out our roster in 2016 and 2017. I hope we can do enough this year to stay in contention at least.

I'm honestly not THAT worried about our "core". Shaq was drafted to replace TD. Larsen filled in fine for Kalil last year and honestly Kalil probably should've been released this off-season. The two big exceptions are TE and DE. We have nothing behind Olsen at TE and we definitely need some young talent at DE.

[The Huddler]

4 minutes ago, MadHatter said:

He is an aging player...coming of multiple injuries that should have been career ending...trying to hold on for his last few seasons and make millions.  I don’t blame him even if he was taking something and trying to cover it up with an estrogen blocker.  It is a business and it is millions of dollars.

yeah i dont blame him either, i just call it how i see it