AFI's Top 100 Movies of All Time

[Moose Hoover]

ps rosebud is his fuggin sled, really dum

bruce willis is a ghost and zuzu'z petals are in his pocket

[cookinbrak]

On 7/20/2018 at 10:21 PM, Shocker said:

Goofellas?  

The Canadian version of Ghostbusters.

[Moorgan]

In 2005, I made my own list after this list came out then. The list made me finally watch Citizen Kane. After watching it I decided the list was garbage and would make my own. Citizen Kane didn't even win the Oscar the year it came out. Anyways, I had like 10 criteria (acting, directing, writing, score, etc) and one of them was money made. I figured there should be some consideration about how popular a movie was and 10% of the score seemed about right. I converted all the money each movie made into then 2005 dollars. I put like 200 movies into the spreadsheet, scored them up the best I could (had to rewatch a bunch of them) and then sorted it to see how they shook out. There were some basic rules (with notable exceptions) that comedies and horror weren't on the list. When it comes to score or cinematography, etc those genres aren't really competing. Of course there were a few but basically Caddyshack doesn't get a solid score ins everal categories if you see where I'm going with this.

Now keep in mind, I was just getting divorced, so I had a ton of free time. It took me several months to make this list and I have since lost the final version but I do have an inprogress version somewhere. Also, it's been 13 years and MANY great movies have come out since then. But I was surprised at which movie ended up as the overall number one...Jaws.

[Anybodyhome]

83.

And this is an old list.

African Queen, Shawshank, Pulp Fiction and Platoon all belong much higher on the list.

[Goondal]

4 hours ago, Moorgan said:

In 2005, I made my own list after this list came out then. The list made me finally watch Citizen Kane. After watching it I decided the list was garbage and would make my own. Citizen Kane didn't even win the Oscar the year it came out. Anyways, I had like 10 criteria (acting, directing, writing, score, etc) and one of them was money made. I figured there should be some consideration about how popular a movie was and 10% of the score seemed about right. I converted all the money each movie made into then 2005 dollars. I put like 200 movies into the spreadsheet, scored them up the best I could (had to rewatch a bunch of them) and then sorted it to see how they shook out. There were some basic rules (with notable exceptions) that comedies and horror weren't on the list. When it comes to score or cinematography, etc those genres aren't really competing. Of course there were a few but basically Caddyshack doesn't get a solid score ins everal categories if you see where I'm going with this.

Now keep in mind, I was just getting divorced, so I had a ton of free time. It took me several months to make this list and I have since lost the final version but I do have an inprogress version somewhere. Also, it's been 13 years and MANY great movies have come out since then. But I was surprised at which movie ended up as the overall number one...Jaws.

That is not a great measure.  Best Picture winners include Crash, Moonlight, Shakespeare in Love, and Driving Miss Daisy.  Oscar voters often have no clue what they are doing.

I am curious, was your list a reorder of the AFI list or did you add in other films as well?

[Johnny Rockets]

No Fight Club........do not like. 

[Moorgan]

1 minute ago, Goondal said:

That is not a great measure.  Best Picture winners include Crash, Moonlight, Shakespeare in Love, and Driving Miss Daisy.  Oscar voters often have no clue what they are doing.

I am curious, was your list a reorder of the AFI list or did you add in other films as well?

Agreed but making it the greatest film of allt ime pissed me off enough to make my list. I included about 200 or so movies that somewhat incorporated their list and was mostly my list (and the suggestions of friends). I'd say I probably had to watch or rewatch about 50 movies. Also the ratings were out of 100 for each category and it became difficult to tell the difference between an 85 or 86. The rankings effectively became 1-20 since I ranked by 5s (75, 80, 85, etc).

[Moorgan]

1 minute ago, Johnny Rockets said:

No Fight Club........do not like. 

My personal favorite. I think it made the top 15 in my list.

[Bronn]

This list is garbage and trying way too hard to pay homage to older films.

I've only seen 31 of the ones on this list, but I guarantee I can come up with at least 40 more movies that should be included in the top 100.

[Zaximus]

On 7/24/2018 at 1:10 PM, Goondal said:

That is not a great measure.  Best Picture winners include Crash, Moonlight, Shakespeare in Love, and Driving Miss Daisy.  Oscar voters often have no clue what they are doing.

I am curious, was your list a reorder of the AFI list or did you add in other films as well?

This is true, I mean Wizard of Oz didn't even win best picture, or It's a Wonderful Life, and I mean Shawshank lost to Forest Gump, not that Gump was bad (obviously) but sometimes it happens like that.      And talking about Shakespeare in Love, lol, it beat out Saving Private Ryan, come on.     Also the year Lawrence of Arabia won and beat out To Kill a Mockingbird, which would have won any other year probably easily.

[Goondal]

1 hour ago, Zaximus said:

This is true, I mean Wizard of Oz didn't even win best picture, or It's a Wonderful Life, and I mean Shawshank lost to Forest Gump, not that Gump was bad (obviously) but sometimes it happens like that.      And talking about Shakespeare in Love, lol, it beat out Saving Private Ryan, come on.     Also the year Lawrence of Arabia won and beat out To Kill a Mockingbird, which would have won any other year probably easily.

Yeah, The Wizard of Oz wins almost any other year, it just went up against Gone With the Wind.  Then there are others years where nothing is really worthy.

Pulp Fiction also lost to Forest Gump.  To be honest I feel like there is unfair backlash to this day against Gump because, while good, it defeated two of the most beloved films of all-time.  I know a decent number of people that hate that movie and invariably at least one of the other two is in their top ten.

[Anybodyhome]

44 minutes ago, Goondal said:

Yeah, The Wizard of Oz wins almost any other year, it just went up against Gone With the Wind.  Then there are others years where nothing is really worthy.

Pulp Fiction also lost to Forest Gump.  To be honest I feel like there is unfair backlash to this day against Gump because, while good, it defeated two of the most beloved films of all-time.  I know a decent number of people that hate that movie and invariably at least one of the other two is in their top ten.

Gump was not a great movie. Well written- yes. Good cinema- yes.

I've watched it a couple times just to see some of the weird stuff in the background I might have missed previously. But I don't dislike it because of another film.

[Goondal]

21 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Gump was not a great movie. Well written- yes. Good cinema- yes.

I've watched it a couple times just to see some of the weird stuff in the background I might have missed previously. But I don't dislike it because of another film.

I fall right there with you.  It is good and enjoyable but not great.  I know people that loathe it though

[arbnranger]

On 7/24/2018 at 5:53 AM, Moorgan said:

In 2005, I made my own list after this list came out then. The list made me finally watch Citizen Kane. After watching it I decided the list was garbage and would make my own. Citizen Kane didn't even win the Oscar the year it came out. Anyways, I had like 10 criteria (acting, directing, writing, score, etc) and one of them was money made. I figured there should be some consideration about how popular a movie was and 10% of the score seemed about right. I converted all the money each movie made into then 2005 dollars. I put like 200 movies into the spreadsheet, scored them up the best I could (had to rewatch a bunch of them) and then sorted it to see how they shook out. There were some basic rules (with notable exceptions) that comedies and horror weren't on the list. When it comes to score or cinematography, etc those genres aren't really competing. Of course there were a few but basically Caddyshack doesn't get a solid score ins everal categories if you see where I'm going with this.

Now keep in mind, I was just getting divorced, so I had a ton of free time. It took me several months to make this list and I have since lost the final version but I do have an inprogress version somewhere. Also, it's been 13 years and MANY great movies have come out since then. But I was surprised at which movie ended up as the overall number one...Jaws.

Would love to see the new list bro, if you complete it.