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The Ringer rings true! The evolution is/should be real!

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Danny Kelly of The Ringer gives plenty of analysis as to how the Panthers offense has evolved under Norv Turner. If anyone still has notions of our offense based upon receivers that can't get open, questionable O-line play, or simple predictability, this article should dispel it.

http://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/11/1/18051330/carolina-panthers-fantasy-offense

 

"The Panthers offense reached a near-perfect equilibrium on Sunday. They mixed speed with power. They threw 30 times for 232 yards and two touchdowns and ran the ball 33 times for 154 yards and two scores. They ran the ball and then threw off play-action, and then used the passing game to set up more runs. They used inside rushes to set up RPOs and screen plays that attacked outside, and they used jet sweeps and pre-snap orbit motion to get the defense flowing outside before attacking the middle. Newton got just about everyone involved and seven separate Carolina players caught a pass. When he wasn’t looking to McCaffrey, Moore, and Samuel (three catches for 28 yards), he targeted Funchess (three catches, 27 yards) and Greg Olsen (four catches, 56 yards, one touchdown) in the intermediate area.

"The only thing still missing from the Panthers’ offensive assault is the deep passing game. Newton has completed just five passes of 20-plus yards this year, which ranks 29th out of 38 qualifying passers, per PFF, and until Torrey Smith returns from a knee injury sustained in Week 7, that may not change. But based on what we saw Sunday, the lack of a deep passing attack may not matter. Instead of sitting in the pocket and waiting for deeper plays to develop, Newton is taking what’s there for him underneath. He’s like the point guard in the Carolina scheme, and distributes the ball to his playmakers so they can pick up explosive plays in space. That’s worked wonders for Newton, and it perfectly fits what run-after-the-catch specialists like Moore and Samuel bring to the offense. Smith’s injury forced that dynamic receiver duo into bigger roles, and it gave us a glimpse of what this Panthers offense should look like."

http://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/11/1/18051330/carolina-panthers-fantasy-offense

 

McCaffrey, Moore and Samuel should be The three other cornerstones in addition to Cam on this offense. And, no, I am not saying that Olsen and Funchess don't have important roles, because everyone plays their part, but what I am saying is that unless Rivera and Turner are blind, how can you go back to the way things were pre-Smith-injury? Danny Kelly insinuated that the first part of this season was Turner and company figuring things out. Well, if this past Sunday was the culmination of Turner's experiments, then he should have things about figured out. Let's hope that he and Rivera are on the same page as this article.

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I think the reason we haven't seen many deep balls is because of our weak line. Really can't give Cam enough time to allow a long play to develop. Either way they are efficient with what they are doing and it's working. Norv is one hell of a OC for figuring it out. 

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9 minutes ago, Newtcase said:

Seems to me that everything is more geared to making the high percentage plays.  It's being drilled into Cam to take what's given and he's doing just that.  The Patriots have had a long run just consistently executing the ordinary plays.

This, folks aren't paying attention around here.  You've only seen a fraction of this offense so far.  People should listen to Norv's interviews more.  Lot's of hints to what's to come if it goes as planned.

Pending Ron doesn't put the brakes on things as he's prone to do.

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Really excited about Moore and Samuels future with this team. They are two freakishly talented players.

This is also how you extend cams career after his athleticism diminishes with age. Get him talented YAC producers. He obviously has the brains to pick apart defenses. And his short/intermediate throws have gotten so much better as the years have gone on. Let’s see where this takes us. Very exciting times offensively.

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1 hour ago, Snake said:

I think the reason we haven't seen many deep balls is because of our weak line. Really can't give Cam enough time to allow a long play to develop. Either way they are efficient with what they are doing and it's working. Norv is one hell of a OC for figuring it out. 

Weak line? Even the article touches ever so slightly on the fact that the line is not weak. And it's not. Matsko obviously had something to work with, and it's working.

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We don't need no stinking deep passes.

 

I mean if things keep being managed so well, we just won't need them. Things are being spread out just fine like they are. The misdirection is doing a really good job of opening things up and Cam is spreading the ball around magnificently.

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3 hours ago, top dawg said:

Weak line? Even the article touches ever so slightly on the fact that the line is not weak. And it's not. Matsko obviously had something to work with, and it's working.

Yes the line has done well but we have also use quick timing passes to counter the rush. 

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31 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Most lineman aren't going to consistently hold a block for more than three seconds, and that's probably stretching it.

 A seven step drop takes longer than that. It's why most offenses use RPO and motion with quick passes now. 

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