This may be the worst defensive play call I have ever seen.

[CRA]

Just now, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Firstly. The Rams are a balanced Offense. KC is a balanced O. The aints are a balanced O. So no, having a balanced O is not a recipe for failure. And it does seem as thought Ron has allowed Norv to pretty much call the game as he sees fit. 

 

    Secondly.  He let McD run his Zone Blitzes. He let Wilkes blitz the heck out of teams. And he is probably going to allow Eric to continue to run the D as he feels is best.

 

    So it appears, at least to me. That Rivera IS willing to adapt, and then trust those coaches to do what they do. 

 

    

pretty sure, Ron inserted himself into defensive meetings under McD early on when his standard wasn't being met.  It wasn't common or something he continued for long.  But Ron has shown he will get involved on D in a way he doesn't on O

But Ron Rivera isn't going to just sit back and watch a defensive coach underachieve for a long time.  Washington is close to nearing the time Ron should step in. 

[AggieLean]

Ron needs to step in, because it appears Washington is in over his head.

[Yaboychris28]

Great call bad execution..

[iamhubby1]

7 minutes ago, CRA said:

pretty sure, Ron inserted himself into defensive meetings under McD early on when his standard wasn't being met.  It wasn't common or something he continued for long.  But Ron has shown he will get involved on D in a way he doesn't on O

But Ron Rivera isn't going to just sit back and watch a defensive coach underachieve for a long time.  Washington is close to nearing the time Ron should step in. 

 

    I didn't go into much detail, but I pretty much agree with you. Ron is willing to stick his nose into any position room he feels needs a wakeup call. 

 

    I mean, let's be real. Ron, Norv, and Eric spend a lot of time together. They have a good feel for what each other want. They talk a lot of football. That said. Eric, and Norv, are still the ones calling the actual plays. 

 

    It is obvious something needs to be done Defensively. To us fans anyhow. The thing is, we have no real idea what is going on behind those gates. We see the finished product, and we make our judgements based on that.

 

    Short story long. Ron cannot be happy with what he sees Defensively. And I am sure he is working on fixing said D. The question is? Will we, the fans, see the fruition of those labors?

 

    

[iamhubby1]

3 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

Ron needs to step in, because it appears Washington is in over his head.

 

    That's the crux of it all. Eric seems to be struggling. Do you trust him to get it? Or is he one of those that never do? Hard to make that decision 9 games into his career. 

 

    One of the things I wish we could see? Is if the D does improve, is it because Rivera stepped in? And how far did he step? Or is it because Eric is finding his sea legs so to speak? We as fans may never know the answer to that one.

[BrianS]

2 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    That's the crux of it all. Eric seems to be struggling. Do you trust him to get it? Or is he one of those that never do? Hard to make that decision 9 games into his career. 

 

    One of the things I wish we could see? Is if the D does improve, is it because Rivera stepped in? And how far did he step? Or is it because Eric is finding his sea legs so to speak? We as fans may never know the answer to that one.

Listen, Washington may or may not turn out to be an effective DC in the long run.  I don't know, it's not something that can be known at this point.  What I do know is that if in fact our HC - a former successful DC - allows a potential SB season to be flushed because he refuses to step in and help, I for one hope that Tepper is less than patient come February.  You don't throw away a potential SB season because you want to support someone who is struggling.

[iamhubby1]

5 minutes ago, BrianS said:

Listen, Washington may or may not turn out to be an effective DC in the long run.  I don't know, it's not something that can be known at this point.  What I do know is that if in fact our HC - a former successful DC - allows a potential SB season to be flushed because he refuses to step in and help, I for one hope that Tepper is less than patient come February.  You don't throw away a potential SB season because you want to support someone who is struggling.

 

    I get what you are saying. I really do. However, If you don't give Washington a full year to figure it out. Are you shortchanging him? Ron may need to step in and guide him, but IMO Washington deserves the chance to turn this around.

 

    Also, not sure you can automatically say this is a SB season. We still need to fix some things. But hey, if things improve, we can be a tough team to play.

 

    @PhillyB has stated that our D is better than advertised. If that is true. We may be better than folks are giving us credit.

[Mr. Scot]

19 minutes ago, BrianS said:

Listen, Washington may or may not turn out to be an effective DC in the long run.  I don't know, it's not something that can be known at this point.  What I do know is that if in fact our HC - a former successful DC - allows a potential SB season to be flushed because he refuses to step in and help, I for one hope that Tepper is less than patient come February.  You don't throw away a potential SB season because you want to support someone who is struggling.

You're talking about a coach that just let a good player out of his contractual obligations to us and decreased our depth at an important position so that the player could be happier elsewhere.

Rivera's decision making isn't always ideal in these situations.

[Manther]

3 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

        Far too manyPanther fans cannot live with anything less than perfection. To heck with a 6-3 record, mistakes were made. 

 

    Like I said. Too many Panther fans feel they just deserve better. 

You're funny. 

How dare I come on a team discussion board and complain about record setting 52 point loss.  Huddlers just want perfection...the nfl is just to rough for me....whatever.

Eric Washington, is that you?

[iamhubby1]

9 minutes ago, Manther said:

You're funny. 

How dare I come on a team discussion board and complain about record setting 52 point loss.  Huddlers just want perfection...the nfl is just to rough for me....whatever.

Eric Washington, is that you?

 

    If you come onto a message board. Does that not mean folks will read, and respond to your posts? I mean, isn't that how this all works?

 

    I like how you complain about this. You quoted me first. You poo on a lot of my posts. But I make fun of one of your posts. And you can't handle it. It's ok, I'm sure it will get better.

[Manther]

19 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    If you come onto a message board. Does that not mean folks will read, and respond to your posts? I mean, isn't that how this all works?

 

    I like how you complain about this. You quoted me first. You poo on a lot of my posts. But I make fun of one of your posts. And you can't handle it. It's ok, I'm sure it will get better.

You bash huddlers saying we expect perfection, can't handle the nfl, or can't handle vibrant discussion. 

That's why you got poo on.

 Sounds like you're the one who can't handle it.  Thin skin.  Lashing out at huddlers.

We do agree on thing.  It will get better, one way or the other.  Tepper won't wait forever for Washington to get his poo together.  FWIW   Washington and RR are probably adjusting.  They certainly aren't saying, "welp its the nfl.. poo happens... can't expect perfection...fans are unreasonable"....like you

 The mis-communication is being addressed.