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Is It Time To Gut This Team?


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1 minute ago, TheRumGone said:

Another GM could think they could get him going with another team because he was an all world talent before. My hope is that yes he will rebound next season IF we beef up the d line. But him playing soft is a realllly bad sign for his future. I don’t know the answers, it’s just something to think about. As far as marty and the picks, I hope he’s not our GM next year and I hope Ron is gone. 

We will never trade Luke though, I know that.

I don't trust this team to move on from Ron nor Marty, and I don't trust Marty in the draft, nor free agency.

And I agree, we aren't trading Luke unless he requests it (won't happen).

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I think changes definately need to be made, but I don’t think u can gut the team in the prime of Cams career basically conceding all hope of him winning a super bowl. Also we would basically be giving the saints the go ahead for the division until further notice since we are the closest thing to a speed bump in our division for them. 

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22 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Another GM could think they could get him going with another team because he was an all world talent before. My hope is that yes he will rebound next season IF we beef up the d line. But him playing soft is a realllly bad sign for his future. I don’t know the answers, it’s just something to think about. As far as marty and the picks, I hope he’s not our GM next year and I hope Ron is gone. 

We will never trade Luke though, I know that.

I mean theoretically, another GM could move on from Cam Newton.

Nobody wants that but it can't be denied that it's genuinely possible.

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I just notice Luke doesn’t fly downhill into the line of scrimmage like years past. I don’t know if it’s scheme change...I don’t know all the X’s O’s but I just see a less aggressive version of him. I just have to think he’s trying to preserve his brain. Which I don’t knock him for, but he’s just been different. 

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Look at the vets who are or will be retiring soon, look at who the free agents will be after this year. Our next offseason could determine the fate of this team for years... 

 

And we have Marty Hurney who has a job only because JR liked him

Come on Tepper... do your thing

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You could always trade Luke to the Jags for Ramsey. Their weakness is their linebackers and our weakness is our secondary. Just a thought...

Then you have to replace Luke. Going forward, this team will have to figure out if we our going to stick to our 4-3 identity or go to a 3-4. If we make the switch, then it might not be a bad deal to trade Luke and make the switch to 3-4 linebackers. 

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