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CMC the best threat the Panthers have ever had?


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23 minutes ago, Paintballr said:

I appreciate both Foster and Davis and some of my favorite memories as a fan had those two in them...

but no way in hell those were more explosive, productive, and caused teams to gameplan against them the way CMC does

We’re you watching the games back then?

 

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4 minutes ago, Nice-Carolina-Chuck said:

I still think he can be good. Fournette is a pure rusher. But CMC is more suitable in today’s NFL. CMC can still affect the game thru the air. I believe hes a better receiver than runner. Hes not a guy who defense can just competely take out of a game. 

Cmc might be a better rusher than fournette also.5.3 avg vs 3.4 big difference 

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6 minutes ago, Nice-Carolina-Chuck said:

No hes not. This is where stats suck and dont mean poo. Eye test!

Teams load up the box vs Fournette bc they know hes getting the rock. Make it worse when Bortles or Kessler is under center and no threat at receiver. 

Whatever but cmc is the better football player even if he doesn’t pass the eye test 

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1 hour ago, JARROD said:

Cam first, Steve Smith, Deangelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, Desean Foster before he got hurt against Chicago in the 2005 playoffs, Stephen Davis was a monster, 

CMac has a lot of respect from me, I root for him, but until he puts in a few more seasons, the players above and maybe a few more I haven’t thought of are better.

Deangelo Williams was a certified Monster when paired up with Stewart who was a bigger certified monster— both could smash, run around and catch. We never really took advantage of their pass catching talents.

remember 2011? The only year where we really had Chud and he had Stewart and Deangelo both run for 5.4 per carry and catch over 450 yards each? 

Now if we would have had a Norv or Chud back in 2008 when we drafted Stewart— anyone want it imagine what would have happened?

thats just those 2 backs—- thread is already too long but Steve Smith took over and won whole games for us when we had no one— Stephen Davis and Desean Foster were both incredible as well

 

True but CMC will have more yards this season than any on the list have had. I agree Smith was a bigger threat to a D but With 132 yards he will have the most yards in a single season that any player has ever had for our team. Hard to argue with the numbers and all teams who face us know that he will be getting the ball. 

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Too early to compare. Smith is a hall of famer who was very productive for a long time. McCaffrey is a second year players who is just coming into his own. At the same point in their careers which is almost 2 years in, CMC is way more productive hands down. But Smith continued to progress and improve and in 2005 won the triple crown. Comparing a second year player with one who retired and is slated for the hall of fame really makes little sense. Apples and oranges at this point.

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9 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Too early to compare. Smith is a hall of famer who was very productive for a long time. McCaffrey is a second year players who is just coming into his own. At the same point in their careers which is almost 2 years in, CMC is way more productive hands down. But Smith continued to progress and improve and in 2005 won the triple crown. Comparing a second year player with one who retired and is slated for the hall of fame really makes little sense. Apples and oranges at this point.

Well said— people get too quick to anoint players. CMac deserves every bit of respect and so far he’s dynamic, versatile and durable.

The thing is, it’s always easy to get caught up with Today being better than yesterday,.. yesterday is not in your face— today has all the hype and emotions.

Christian can stay healthy and keep doing his thing and he will catch names and put them in the rear view—

he has to get there first though

 

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14 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Too early to compare. Smith is a hall of famer who was very productive for a long time. McCaffrey is a second year players who is just coming into his own. At the same point in their careers which is almost 2 years in, CMC is way more productive hands down. But Smith continued to progress and improve and in 2005 won the triple crown. Comparing a second year player with one who retired and is slated for the hall of fame really makes little sense. Apples and oranges at this point.

Not trying to compare career stats just on this season alone as a player who is a threat to defenses 

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Maybe. CMC is gonna regress next year like the rest of this team. I almost feel bad for the kid. He should be on a team that has management that will FIGHT to win. We wasted Cam's career. We wasted Luke's career. Now CMC is the next generational talent on this team to waste his play/shelf life with the Panthers.

 

If J.J. Watt did not exist ( because he is a once a generation talent regulated to a  losing team)Luke is number 2, but in the same situation. 

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