NFL/PA deny targeting Eric Reid

[NanuqoftheNorth]

3 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

Way to completely ignore context. Reid's the only active player defying the NFL not a random member of his organization like your Marine.

I've witnessed the same sort of situation with the military's random drug testing program on several occasions.  The response that the NFL just provided is the same one provided by military leadership.

To a military member being tested an inordinate number of times it never feels random, it feels like you're being targeted, even if the reason isn't apparent.

[JARROD]

14 minutes ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Ah yes I love when someone is a cry baby about other people being cry babies

Yep I’m a crybaby watching people get weaker and weaker but try to act like they are getting shot at or sitting at the back of a bus in the 50s— all while they are rich.

The NFLPA which is totally for the players and by the players says it’s random,.. so I is.

the tests are completely independent, and again the probability of each has nothing to do with the whole.

again that’s just math.

[CBDellinger]

10 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Flawed numbers though. Each test has its own random probability, they are not connected.

this is flawed math and logic used to stir up more bs

Did you read the article?

Cause your response suggests that you didnt read the article.

[heel31ok]

18 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

Way to completely ignore context. Reid's the only active player defying the NFL not a random member of his organization like your Marine.

Lol...if he's clean no worries...the context is he will complain about every little perceived offense ....

[MechaZain]

4 minutes ago, JARROD said:

That guy was a hero, one of the best Marines and men ever. You don’t qualify as his wasted sperm let alone to speak of him that way. 

There’s no ignoring the context. It’s confirmation bias. Believing everyone is out to get you and then having something that is completely random not go your way turns into everyone out to get you.

anyway, when the NFLPA also says the tests were random, then it’s random and people are just using obscure cherry picked numbers to make it sound worst.

there are people who have won the lottery multiple times— odds of each though are completely separate from each other. 

Like I said poo happens

 

I actually respect the military so that wasn't an insult, but thank you for your service champ and go fug yourself

[JARROD]

Just now, CBDellinger said:

Did you read the article?

Cause your response suggests that you didnt read the article.

When you string together events that each have their own probability and try to link their probability together, the math is wrong— the logic is wrong— and the purpose is to stir up uneducated masses.

It’s flawed and it’s wrong.

[Zaximus]

Let's get this straight:

There's a super low chance of this happening period.     That's really enough to know it's targeted.  

But then let's look at the fact that there is about 1700 players in the league and the one that hit with this insanely low outcome, is the one that is fighting the league over collusion.   THE ONE.  These two facts have to make this an insanely low chance, even less than the .1% or whatever chance.

This is typical NFL, just like their muddied rules on game-day so they can say whatever.   

[JARROD]

1 minute ago, MechaZain said:

I actually respect the military so that wasn't an insult, but thank you for your service champ and go fug yourself

Haha

[Arroz con Panther]

12 minutes ago, JARROD said:

That guy was a hero, one of the best Marines and men ever. You don’t qualify as his wasted sperm let alone to speak of him that way. 

There’s no ignoring the context. It’s confirmation bias. Believing everyone is out to get you and then having something that is completely random not go your way turns into everyone out to get you.

anyway, when the NFLPA also says the tests were random, then it’s random and people are just using obscure cherry picked numbers to make it sound worst.

there are people who have won the lottery multiple times— odds of each though are completely separate from each other. 

Like I said poo happens

 

What did he do to deserve that reaction? Just because you were a marine doesn't give you the right to talk to people that way.

He wasn't wrong. IF Reid hadn't been the second person to kneel beside Kaep and he was getting drug tested like this, then it wouldn't be an issue. But add in the details of opening a collusion case against the NFL, it just seems like the NFL was trying to find a way to throw the case out. "Hey, if we catch him doing something illegal, then the court won't move forward with the collusion case. Let's drug test him every week!"

I know probability isn't everything, but a .02% chance for this to happen is eye-catching. If the NFLPA says they're happy with the investigation, and they did, then we can move on. It doesn't mean we can't call bullshit on it. And, I don't think having a conversation about it equals us "crying" about it. I agree that the world is going soft, but this isn't one of those times to use that card.

[CBDellinger]

1 minute ago, JARROD said:

When you string together events that each have their own probability and try to link their probability together, the math is wrong— the logic is wrong— and the purpose is to stir up uneducated masses.

It’s flawed and it’s wrong.

so immma take that as a "no, I didnt actually read the article... I just spit some stuff out my azz."

spoiler - they cover all that... including that part where they say, yeah this will happen to a coupe players every year.

But go ahead n do you.

[My Goodness My Guinness]

1 hour ago, JARROD said:

When I was with the Marines there were random drug tests all the time, after long weekends or leave were over. 

I didn’t have any drug tests for 2 years. My roommate seemed like he was tested every month or more.

poo happens— everyone are crybabies these days.

the days of crybaby culture created by social media. People are so weak these days.

Poo does happen, but the fact is that there was a 0.02% that this would happen in a randomized system, which in itself means that it's highly unlikely. It seems to me that it's an extremely reasonable argument to say "Hey, this seems unlikely to be coincidence." Would it still be crybaby culture if an investigation found that no player in the recorded history of NFL testing had a rate so high?

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Well, as unfortunate as this random drug testing issue has been for Eric, it has likely eliminated any chance for claims that he was taking PEDs or using other illegal substances in 2018.

[ChibCU]

ESPN article states the joint investigation found Reid's claimed number of tests to be false.

[MechaZain]

This is gonna get ugly