Tepper has "no idea" whether Cam Newton needs surgery

[JARROD]

2 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Funny. I have owned multiple businesses that did over a million dollars in revenue which was big for me but small potatoes for a guy like Tepper. Once again you jump right in where you don't have a clue.

Well then we come from very different management backgrounds. 

If you tell your employees you are “sinking” as another poster said— they quit and go away. In this case you make FA run for the hills. Attendees and ratings go in the tank— merchandise goes down.

dont know what kind of business you ran but that’s generally how it works.

anyway— i would be thick is I didn’t try to see your side— the barbs about being an accountant were just that— but if you are we all need them too ha.

Best regards

[electro's horse]

Just now, t96 said:

Cam has had several MRI's on various parts of his body.

again, the last one was in 2016

like he has played football since then

[CBDellinger]

Y’all are ridiculous. 

Cam has has had an mri. It suggests there is nothing to repair.  The doctors don’t know why he’s still having issues.  Cam doesn’t know, Ron doesn’t know and Tepper doesn’t know either.  

The best course of action is rest and rehab and hope for the best.  Igo is spot on, this could be a chronic condition.  The first surgery was not a success.  A second surgery is worst case scenario. Pray it doesn’t come to that.  

This discussion about HIPAA is so dumb.   The NFL is not a covered entity and as such HIPAA does not apply in regards to football related injuries, this is why the weekly injury report is possible.

  

[KillerKat]

So basically Rivera took a Ferrari, drove it to hell without changing the oil or getting any maintenance done and continued driving it until the engine blew up.

[JARROD]

2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

thank god

Haha— so you like “ Go Tepper Go!”

keep Ron and piss everyone off,.. check,..

Cams done,.. can’t say that but we just stir up the controversy— check—

Ron and Marty F’d up but I made rookie mistakes and regret it— check—

make sure there’s no immediate hope for the future— check.

no reason or fight to keep the stadium in Charlotte— Raleigh foots 100% for a new one—

check mate.

im telling you folks— a leader doesn’t make comments like “I don’t know” but nothing will tank a business faster to get what you want like “I don’t know”

 

[electro's horse]

Just now, JARROD said:

Haha— so you like “ Go Tepper Go!”

no the family wants out of the PSLs

[panthers55]

Just now, JARROD said:

Well then we come from very different management backgrounds. 

If you tell your employees you are “sinking” as another poster said— they quit and go away. In this case you make FA run for the hills. Attendees and ratings go in the tank— merchandise goes down.

dont know what kind of business you ran but that’s generally how it works.

anyway— i would be thick is I didn’t try to see your side— the barbs about being an accountant were just that— but if you are we all need them too ha.

Best regards

He didn't say we were sinking or any kind of dire prediction. You keep making things up. He said he didn't know if Cam needed surgery and would explore all options and certainly hoped Cam would make a full recovery. He said he was sticking with Cam but needed a back up plan  seems to me that is positive and responsible. You seem the one making mountains out of molehills and seeing dire consequence. I can only assume you are a Cam fan more than a Panther fan and are going all hysterical when Cam's future is uncertain. For many of us his words were comforting that we have a plan not alarming as it seems to you and other Cam slob bobbers.

[JARROD]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

no the family wants out of the PSLs

Yuck

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

no the family wants out of the PSLs

You aren't alone. The possibility of a new stadium is much more concerning than what happens with a particular player even Cam. 

[Mr. Scot]

A bit of "reading between the lines" here (though not all that much)...

One thing that's clear in this is that if Newton isn't available next year, that does not turn next year into an expendable season.

We're not tanking a season so that we can start over with Newton the following year. They are still going to try just as hard to win next year as any other season.

Whatever fallout there is from that will be dealt with in 2020.

[CBDellinger]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

A bit of "reading between the lines" here (though not all that much)...

One thing that's clear in this is that if Newton isn't available next year, that does not turn next year into an expendable season.

We're not tanking a season so that we can start over with Newton the following year. They are still going to try just as hard to win next year as any other season.

And they should.  There is still a ton of talent on this team, especially on the offensive side of the ball.  

 

 

[panthers55]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

A bit of "reading between the lines" here (though not all that much)...

One thing that's clear in this is that if Newton isn't available next year, that does not turn next year into an expendable season.

We're not tanking a season so that we can start over with Newton the following year. They are still going to try just as hard to win next year as any other season.

The other part folks don't want to see if that cutting Cam cost 8 million versus 23 million to keep him. 15 million is a ton of money to waste if there isn't some kind of likelihood that Cam will make a full recovery. While I don't think we will move on, keeping him is a huge risk.

[t96]

41 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

The last thing anyone should want is opening up Cam's throwing shoulder again. Every time you do that there is a big risk of it getting worse. 

Cam could be done, folks. It may just be a reality that his shoulder just cannot take the stress of a full season. But if he isn't done and can continue, opening up his shoulder again could ensure he is done. 

 

It's a gamble either way, but maybe best to err on the side of no surgery. 

 

I'm kinda thinking just have him rest and rehab for the next year and plan on him coming back in 2020. We can roll with Allen this year and either suck and get a high draft pick or he plays well and we have 2 great QBs on the roster, could trade one or have insurance for Cam. Not the worst strategy... 

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

And they should.  There is still a ton of talent on this team, especially on the offensive side of the ball.  

Agreed.

I've seen people suggesting that if Cam can't go next year, they'll just tank. That's not how it works.

The team doesn't exist to serve any player, not even the quarterback. Just the opposite: The players are here to help the team.

When one of them goes down, they don't ask the other sixty or so to put their careers on hold while the one guy heals.

Next year still counts.