Mel Kiper's First 2019 Mock - 01/17/19

[Black&BlueBubba]

34 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Yeh I’ve read that about Greg— that’s a big flag—

Flowers is a BB guy— the problem there is would Ron be smart enough to duplicate the results,... Bill moves him around, knows how to get the best from him.

i like him otherwise.

i haven’t researched Chase— I’ll look him up since you mentioned him.

Chase is a DE not a tackle.  I think he is about 6’2 258lbs.  So he’s not the biggest.  But neither was Charles Johnson. And I not sure how he will test at combine.  But I want more guys with a motor like his.  Not lazy bums like Desheon Hall.  Give me some damn excitement.  

there was also a tweet about him that I can’t find about how is motor doesn’t stop.  

These are the type of guys I hope Tepper has some influence on Marty to look at. 

[CPF4LIFE]

1 hour ago, trueblade said:

It's a terrible first round overall from a Panthers perspective. The top 5 EDGE gone (Bosa, Allen, Gary, Ferrel, Polite). Two DTs gone (Q. Williams, Oliver), 3 OTs (J. Williams, Ford, Taylor) 2 CBs (G. Williams, Baker). The only picks that aren't at a position of huge need were 2 QBs (Haskins, Murry) and a LB (White). Not a single WR, RB, or TE - areas of least need - even if Son of Olsen retires, Thomas showed well.

Edit: Actually no safeties taken yet. You could the top Safety if you wanted, but that's never been a big priority for this team under the current leadership.

If it fell like this,  then i would settle for Christian wilkins at this point.

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

It’s a good thing for us. Thompson in some draft info may be falling to the 3rd with the way he ended the season (bad against Clemson). FA safeties abound and like last year they weren’t paid much. Mathieu got the most at $7m for 1 season. We should be able to sign Reid pretty cheap and honey get a guy like Collins or Mathieu for not much more. They’re really devalued contract wise.

  We have to get more athletic in both Safety spots and NCB. Mathieu, Joyner, or Thomas are huge upgrades over anything we have put at that position. In a long time. No “box” Safeties-Those are who should be the other LB with Luke. Not in deep coverage. I’d love Collins there, but not at that price. But Reid would be perfect and affordable and could still play SS if a team tries a lot of 12 personnel. 

  Thompson scares me. Like most, I was drooling early in the season. But he declined a bit, and I can’t figure out if it was more scheme or him. I’d still take him 2nd or later and make him interchangeable with the FS we sign. 

  Safety would go from a huge weakness to a strength. For around 8M and  a pick. Like you said, lots of options. 

 

[Toomers]

5 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

If it fell like this,  then i would settle for Christian wilkins at this point.

Didn’t even see that. Wilkins would do just fine as well. 

[JARROD]

14 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

Chase is a DE not a tackle.  I think he is about 6’2 258lbs.  So he’s not the biggest.  But neither was Charles Johnson. And I not sure how he will test at combine.  But I want more guys with a motor like his.  Not lazy bums like Desheon Hall.  Give me some damn excitement.  

there was also a tweet about him that I can’t find about how is motor doesn’t stop.  

These are the type of guys I hope Tepper has some influence on Marty to look at. 

Like a Clay Matthews type of motor— I like it. 

[JARROD]

3 minutes ago, Red Dead Redemption said:

That’s pure stupid. Burns is 10x the player Brown was

I watched a few of his highlights,.. looks much better than Brown for sure.

I think of the draft was really going this way we either jump up for someone or drop back honestly.

 

[JARROD]

4 minutes ago, Red Dead Redemption said:

Little suck. Awful lazy

That’s what is bugging me about his scout reports,.. “questionable effort at times”. I would rather have a guy with less athletic talent but with an unstoppable motor

[JARROD]

Just now, Red Dead Redemption said:

We better drop back. I dont care who is there. Even if it’s Bosa. I’d be damn pissed if we trade up for anyone when we couldve had that pick but wanted to beat NO in week 17. 

This year is a win or die for Hurney and Rivera,..

all bets are off.

i wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a 2008 all over again—- 2 first round picks. 

I just hope he doesn’t trade next years first to do it. Trade Short if he had to.

[JARROD]

1 minute ago, Red Dead Redemption said:

Go watch him. Hes pure lazy. Scouts say he’s extremely athletic but man he’s awfully lazy. Doesnt put any effort when Ole Miss pulls him to make blocks. He’s walking to make the pull. 

Risner would be my pick. Plug him at RT for 10 yrs.

I like Jawann Taylor and Risner— Taylor would have to start on the right but I like his motor and ability— doesn’t seem like he would be lazy.

he looks like he has all the talent to move to the left at some point too.

it would be awesome if he fell to our 2nd pick, dont think so— half the mock drafts have him in the top 20.

[JARROD]

1 minute ago, Red Dead Redemption said:

Tepper better not let them invest future picks. Especially a 2020 1st or 2nd. Id fire Hurney and Rivera on the spot if they do

Yeh, you go trade future first rounders you had better at least get to the Super Bowl...

that almost never works out. Actually when has it?

the Falcons traded the farm for Julio and he’s got great stats and he’s a monster at times but they haven’t won a Super Bowl,.. they suck again now

[Carolina Cajun]

I can't wait until 2021 so we can see him actually contribute for one season on our team.

[trueblade]

8 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Yeh, you go trade future first rounders you had better at least get to the Super Bowl...

that almost never works out. Actually when has it?

Not that I like to think about, but NO traded next years first in this past draft and they're one win from the Owl.

[JARROD]

1 minute ago, trueblade said:

Not that I like to think about, but NO traded next years first in this past draft and they're one win from the Owl.

That’s true. I guess if you really had everything you need, a complete team and you were really one piece away then ok.

we suck— and one draft and FA with Cam on the mend isn’t going to win us a Super Bowl so I think I would throw up if Hurney pulled a 2008. We all want to forget what happened the next 2 seasons thereafter.

yuck

[JARROD]

12 minutes ago, Red Dead Redemption said:

We’re rebuilding hate it or not. We wont be good next season. And if we do, then we will overachieve. We better start addin picks for the future, not invest them.

Yeh that’s the true true— we aren’t going to the Super Bowl next year. 

I would be down for trading back for additional picks, having 5-6 picks in the first 3 rounds instead of 4.

getting 3-4 starters out of that and 1-2 solid role players would be awesome,.. 2 good free agents.

then we can fix the rest in 2020 when we have $100 million to use.