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Mississippi State and the NFL draft

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19 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I remember a lot of similar reports about Amini. Just sayin'...

When you look up and down NFL rosters, the starting OL are dominated by P5 schools. I mean, honestly the entire rosters are but especially OL. Even more specifically, when I'm looking for OL I'd start in the Big 10. Those teams routinely produce great OL. Wisconsin, Ohio State, Iowa... probably in that order. I don't think it's a coincidence that great OL are consistently produced by the upper midwest. That's the wrestling heart of America and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these guys have wrestling in their backgrounds. Oklahoma is another wrestling stronghold and OU consistently puts out top OL too.

I agree, just giving the kid his props since probably his worst rep is what was being highlighted.  He's someone you wouldn't expect to be touched until at least the 4th round because he is going to need development with that step up in talent.

Oklahoma comes directly to mind for me as a school that lately just keeps churning out high end NFL Oline talent.  I'm seeing the guard Ben Powers just stoning everyone in the practices so far so he's probably the next one along with Cody Ford.

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1 minute ago, Untouchable said:

I agree, just giving the kid his props since probably his worst rep is what was being highlighted.  He's someone you wouldn't expect to be touched until at least the 4th round because he is going to need development with that step up in talent.

Oklahoma comes directly to mind for me as a school that lately just keeps churning out high end NFL Oline talent.  I'm seeing the guard Ben Powers just stoning everyone in the practices so far so he's probably the next one.

I was shocked that we got Duke Robinson so late in the draft a few years back and that he ultimately didn't work out in the NFL. That guys looked like a man among boys in college. He looked about as good as a college OL can look. Teams obviously did their homework on him and figured out something about him that led them to (correctly) determine that he wasn't a great NFL prospect.

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The biggest question I have at this point about Sweat is off the field. He basically got kicked out of Michigan State. Not sure what that was all about. He had a layover at a JUCO and then ended up at Mississippi State. Now obviously Cam Newton had a similar college journey so it's not a deal breaker by any means, but certainly something that warrants some digging.

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2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Not sure I’d consider Western Michigan a small school. They finished #15 his last year and in his career Moton played Purdue, Virginia Tech, Air Force, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Ohio State, Illinois and Northwestern outside of the MAC. Not a power 5 conference but not Alabama State.

Yeah, they're a solid mid-major, but when I say "small school" I'm basically talking about any non-P5 team. But yeah, the MAC is probably the top NFL producing conference outside of the P5.

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1 minute ago, stbugs said:

Yep. Some people in here aren’t big on college football. Just wanted to note that Western Michigan (in 2016) is probably closer to Clemson in play than Alabama State. I couldn’t even name another team in whatever conference they are in. 

Honestly, Western Michigan isn't historically even one of the better MAC teams. Marshall was dominant in the late '90s/early '00s but they're C-USA now. Central Michigan had a good run after Marshall bounced. Since 2010, Northern Illinois has been the dominant team.

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17 hours ago, ncfan said:

Sweat is a fugging monster

 

After seeing him in person today 

He is a Strong want.  Would fit in a versatile 3-4/4-3 as well.

I've been saying his name for us for awhile but after today he might not make it to 16 if he keeps trending up. 

Showing alot of power and rush moves for a guy who some thought could be undersized 

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I don't mind a high draft pick at any position on the offsensive line at this point, with them being likely two since we kind of have to draft a center early at some point.

I also envision a scenerio where Matt Kalil is our LT bc the FO attempts to squeeze as much out of him while healthy as they can. I mean, this is a business after all and he was serviceable at times in 2016. (Do not @ me thought, i want him replaced too)

The defensive players at Mississippi State all seem great, too. 

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23 hours ago, Toomers said:

Being an Auburn fan, I’ve been singing the praises of Sweat and Simmons for awhile. 

  On Jamal Peters. I love converting CBs to S and with his size, could he be a “TE eraser” type box safety. Haven’t seen enough to know if he could handle it. 

 

While I like Simmons, Sweat, Jenkins, and Abrams I will take a pass on Peters.  For the simple fact that we have one project CB converting to safety already. And that didn’t look very good in year one.  We don’t need a project.  We need someone to get on the field at S.  We have been trash in that department.  

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8 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

While I like Simmons, Sweat, Jenkins, and Abrams I will take a pass on Peters.  For the simple fact that we have one project CB converting to safety already. And that didn’t look very good in year one.  We don’t need a project.  We need someone to get on the field at S.  We have been trash in that department.  

One, it would be a later round project type pick. Not looking for him to play immediately. Two,  just because we chose the least athletic CB in the draft and tried and failed(so far) doesn’t mean you don’t try again. We could always draft two more box Safeties because they played S in college. That’s the problem now. 

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