NFL Draft genius Tony Pauline's 3-round mock draft spectacular

[KneelingCamFan]

13 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

I have a free safety with our 5th round pick (granted, this my is pre-combine, practically no research, I don't follow college football mock draft). I'm intrigued by Ugo Amadi. He's a little undersized, but a real ball hawk, 3 int last season, 2 for pick 6's, 8 PD's, 55 tackles, 4 for a loss, 1.5 sacks. Plus Amadi returned 14 punts for 223 yards and a score in 2018. He also won the Lombardi Award, so he's obviously a good locker room presence. He's being mocked in the 6th, 7th or undrafted, but I think that'll change with the combine.  Bonus points...he played nickel for Oregon before switching to safety.

BTW, here's the rest of my pre-combine way too early mock draft. It will likely change 6-7 more times:

16 - Montez Sweat - DE, Miss State

47 - William Sweet - LT, UNC

77 - Vesean Joseph - OLB, FL

100 - Erik McKoy - C, Texas

115 -  Interior line.   We could possibly bundle with 100 to move up for a starting center, McKoy, Gaillard, and Jenkins may all be off the table by 100.  If not, lets look at guard; Prescod (NC State), Deiter, (Wis), McGovern (Penn) could all be around at 115.

154 - Ugo Amadi - FS, Oregon

187 - who really cares?

I'm not sure if we will address the TE in FA, but we need to address TE as well. This offense runs so much better when we have two TEs and even if Olsen does come back to play this is likely his last year and the fact that he may get hurt again.

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Different systems. He was very good in ours. But, it's also why I thought it was absurd to make him the highest paid OG in NFL history. He was a very good OG for us, but IMO it was pretty easy to see his physical limitations. We largely kept him in his comfort zone where his relative lack of athleticism wouldn't be an issue.

Yeah but that is also more evidence that he didn't warrant that kind of contract. I think we made the right choice giving Turner the contract and letting Norwell walk for the amount that he did. It sucks in the short term but I think we can dig out of that hole through the draft. I am much, much, much more concerned about our OT situation. That has consistently had detrimental impacts to the health of our QB.

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I don’t like Sweet. A tackle I’ve never even heard about at 47 doesn’t make sense. Walterfootball might not be the best but they have him #26 and 5th to 7th round. That’s why I hadn’t heard about him. I’d take Hyatt or him in the 5th as developing depth but not 47. 47 has to be a starter. 

If you look at other sources, he is also listed as a late round pick. Unless he explodes at the combine, that would be a huge, huge, huge, huge, huge overdraft. He is likely more of a training camp body or practice squad guy than a 2nd rounder.

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah but that is also more evidence that he didn't warrant that kind of contract. I think we made the right choice giving Turner the contract and letting Norwell walk for the amount that he did. It sucks in the short term but I think we can dig out of that hole through the draft. I am much, much, much more concerned about our OT situation. That has consistently had detrimental impacts to the health of our QB.

I understand why we chose Turner and 100% agreed with it at the time, but in hindsight if I could have Norwell on Turner's contract instead I'd take that option. Turner is the more talented player, but Norwell was the better player for us. I feel similarly about Star/Short. I sure wish we could have Star back on that Bills' contract and if we could I'd take that all day everyday over Short on his current contract.

Damn old hindsight...

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I understand why we chose Turner and 100% agreed with it at the time, but in hindsight if I could have Norwell on Turner's contract instead I'd take that option. Turner is the more talented player, but Norwell was the better player for us. I feel similarly about Star/Short. I sure wish we could have Star back on that Bills' contract and if we could I'd take that all day everyday over Short on his current contract.

Damn old hindsight...

Yeah, I can understand that. We did keep the better player in both cases, however. Turner and Short have played much closer to the value of their contracts than Star or Norwell have. Poe probably played better than Star last season, although neither was great. 

Oh well, all we can do is make the best of those moves at the moment. 

[shaqattaq]

10 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I don’t like Sweet. A tackle I’ve never even heard about at 47 doesn’t make sense. Walterfootball might not be the best but they have him #26 and 5th to 7th round. That’s why I hadn’t heard about him. I’d take Hyatt or him in the 5th as developing depth but not 47. 47 has to be a starter. 

You're probably right, I was reaching for LT, and knew that the top prospects would be gone by 47. 5-7 round seems a bit low to me, even though I admittedly don't follow college football, but did watch a few ACC games, and Sweet looked good. 

Per 247sports: "He was named to Pro Football Focus's All-Conference Team following the 2018 season. Sweet allowed only one sack, two quarterback hits, and eight hurries for 11 total pressures on 398 snaps in pass protection. Sweet had an 80.4 PFF grade for offense, 85.7 pass-blocking grade, and a 72.8 run-blocking grade, the top run-blocking grade among ACC offensive tackles. Sweet only had one penalty called on him."

Per CBSsports "Sweet shows glimpses of Edoga's plus athleticism which gives him awesome mirroring power in pass protection. He rarely looks panicked as a pass blocker. He's a ways away from being strong enough to deal with NFL defensive ends or consistently move defenders in the run game. Plenty of talent with Sweet though."

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, I can understand that. We did keep the better player in both cases, however. Turner and Short have played much closer to the value of their contracts than Star or Norwell have. Poe probably played better than Star last season, although neither was great. 

Oh well, all we can do is make the best of those moves at the moment. 

Take a look at what happened to our D without Star and what happened to the Bills' D with Star. We went from 7th overall to 15th and 3rd against the run to 12th. We basically went from a really good D to a middle of the pack D. The Bills went from 26th overall and 29th against the run to 2nd overall and 16th against the run. Star didn't put up the stats but he did the dirty work. We didn't miss what we had in him until he was gone.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, shaqattaq said:

You're probably right, I was reaching for LT, and knew that the top prospects would be gone by 47. 5-7 round seems a bit low to me, even though I admittedly don't follow college football, but did watch a few ACC games, and Sweet looked good. 

Per 247sports: "He was named to Pro Football Focus's All-Conference Team following the 2018 season. Sweet allowed only one sack, two quarterback hits, and eight hurries for 11 total pressures on 398 snaps in pass protection. Sweet had an 80.4 PFF grade for offense, 85.7 pass-blocking grade, and a 72.8 run-blocking grade, the top run-blocking grade among ACC offensive tackles. Sweet only had one penalty called on him."

Per CBSsports "Sweet shows glimpses of Edoga's plus athleticism which gives him awesome mirroring power in pass protection. He rarely looks panicked as a pass blocker. He's a ways away from being strong enough to deal with NFL defensive ends or consistently move defenders in the run game. Plenty of talent with Sweet though."

Sweet leaving college was probably a mistake unless he tears it up at the combine. He was only a starter for one full season. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Take a look at what happened to our D without Star and what happened to the Bills' D with Star. We went from 7th overall to 15th and 3rd against the run to 12th. We basically went from a really good D to a middle of the pack D. The Bills went from 26th overall and 29th against the run to 2nd overall and 16th against the run. Star didn't put up the stats but he did the dirty work. We didn't miss what we had in him until he was gone.

Well, they didn't make some other moves in the front seven as well but I do agree the addition of Star definitely improved them. I also agree that he was vastly underappreciated during his time here. I think this next season will be very telling for us defensively and in regards to how much of an impact his loss made. And, we always have the option to jettison Poe next offseason, so I think that will be a look at how they view him.

[mc52beast]

This draft is full of d-linemen who are most likely plug-n-play. Fix the issues in the trenches and you don’t need an all-star safety 

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

This draft is full of d-linemen who are most likely plug-n-play. Fix the issues in the trenches and you don’t need an all-star safety 

You need someone who is at least average, however. We currently do not have that.

[KillerKat]

Every time the draft is mentioned, I'm so glad we won our last meaningless game in the regular season to drop us down 8 spots. 

[RumHam]

18 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

You heard it here 1st, we're taking Washington State LT Andre Dillard at #16

man if we grab him and that center in the second i'd be happy AF. solidification for years on the line. Let Williams walk, Moton at RT, Larsen and Turner at guards.

[RumHam]

i just looked at his poo and he's way off. Cards not taking Bosa and Broncos took on Flacco's contract but still draft a QB? Lol no. I also don't see Gettleman choosing Haskins.