Shots Fired - #gettlemagic

[Cpt slay a ho]

3 hours ago, Icege said:

Unverified but: https://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/139807-unverified-report-gettleman-cut-steve-smith-because-in-2013-he-punched-cam-newton-in-the-face-twice-in-the-locker-room-after-practice/

That was a baseless rumor, have a hard time believing this wouldn’t have been a big story if true and I have a hard time believing cam would jack smith ass up like he did Norman if he pull a stunt like this 

[Toomers]

9 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

What kind of logic is this? Why would we go back 3 years when there was a different gm and qb in place.....please explain the logic behind that. Berated is a whole different animal than suggesting he would pull something similar to Ken Lucas on cam. You’re not making sense, you’re,  wasn’t ever part of the best team nfl, we’ve never been the best team in the nfl.....have you forgot no rings.....

Ok. Go back 2. Cams first two years were losing seasons. With the same GM he’s has almost the entire career. Why’s a different GM matter? Don’t they both suck? 

 It had just as good a chance as him helping us win the SB. At least what I said has happened multiple times. Yours has/and can’t happen. 

 He’s never been a SB winner. Exactly. Never the best.

Part of the worst and awful(2010) 

start a poll...ask the board. Ask if SS got in trouble tomorrow for any sort of violent act, would you be surprised? 

[Toomers]

46 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

Lol...more nothing from you richard...

Not what momma says......

[Toomers]

20 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

That was a baseless rumor, have a hard time believing this wouldn’t have been a big story if true and I have a hard time believing cam would jack smith ass up like he did Norman if he pull a stunt like this 

I’ve never heard that either. It would have gotten out. 

[heel31ok]

10 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Not what momma says......

 she said she wants her bras back you're stretching them out

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, Toomers said:

I’ve never heard that either. It would have gotten out. 

How many years did it take the Jerry Richardson story to come out?

Are we certain Bob Kraft only recently started visiting massage parlors?

We discussed the story a while back in All Pro. No definitive conclusion, but generally acknowledged that it's possible.

If there's one thing football teams tend to be good at, it's covering things up

[Cpt slay a ho]

9 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Ok. Go back 2. Cams first two years were losing seasons. With the same GM he’s has almost the entire career. Why’s a different GM matter? Don’t they both suck? 

 It had just as good a chance as him helping us win the SB. At least what I said has happened multiple times. Yours has/and can’t happen. 

 He’s never been a SB winner. Exactly. Never the best.

Part of the worst and awful(2010) 

start a poll...ask the board. Ask if SS got in trouble tomorrow for any sort of violent act, would you be surprised? 

Wait I forget which gm released smith again ? That’s why it’s relevant and matters. 

The panthers haven’t been super bowl winners ever....I don’t understand the logic behind that statement bout smith never wining as well. 

Why would do a poll to see if anyone would be surprised? What exactly does that prove or disproves ? 

Again,there’s nothing to prove we’d been better off without smith in 2015, besides pipe dreams 

[Toomers]

41 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Wait I forget which gm released smith again ? That’s why it’s relevant and matters. 

The panthers haven’t been super bowl winners ever....I don’t understand the logic behind that statement bout smith never wining as well. 

Why would do a poll to see if anyone would be surprised? What exactly does that prove or disproves ? 

Again,there’s nothing to prove we’d been better off without smith in 2015, besides pipe dreams 

And there nothing to prove we would have been better either  Which was the whole point. 

And I can’t use years from the GM who was with him most of his career. What other new criteria is coming

And he never helped you win any other year. Why would he have in 2015. Again the point. 

  It would show that while many fans love Smitty the player, he has been well-known unstable since he got to the NFL. 

[heel31ok]

56 minutes ago, Toomers said:

And there nothing to prove we would have been better either  Which was the whole point. 

And I can’t use years from the GM who was with him most of his career. What other new criteria is coming

And he never helped you win any other year. Why would he have in 2015. Again the point. 

  It would show that while many fans love Smitty the player, he has been well-known unstable since he got to the NFL. 

Yeah unstable like nitro...but no still wouldn't have won SB ...but that falls on other issues he would have had nothing to do with...unless you have him punch Von Miller every play...wait maybe he could have helped 

[Cpt slay a ho]

52 minutes ago, Toomers said:

And there nothing to prove we would have been better either  Which was the whole point. 

And I can’t use years from the GM who was with him most of his career. What other new criteria is coming

And he never helped you win any other year. Why would he have in 2015. Again the point. 

  It would show that while many fans love Smitty the player, he has been well-known unstable since he got to the NFL. 

No ones debating Smith’s character, but you’re debating the effectiveness of a hof bound WR, what exactly didn’t smith do with hurney as a gm, same player regardless gm, and you might want to go back and get watch the 2013 season, he’s responsible for big wins against the 49ers and Dolphins that year....oh and let me add we’d probably get shutout in the playoffs that year not for him......you don’t want to go that route of trying to prove his production didn’t help the team. We lost in the 2014 divisional round because our wrs we absolutely garbage, same for the super bowl, just saying the following year he did the same for the ravens in the playoffs....

[Toomers]

Just now, Cpt slay a ho said:

No ones debating Smith’s character, but you’re debating the effectiveness of a hof bound WR, what exactly didn’t smith do with hurney as a gm, same player regardless gm, and you might want to go back and get watch the 2013 season, he’s responsible for big wins against the 49ers and Dolphins that year....oh and let me add we’d probably get shutout in the playoffs that year not for him......you don’t want to go that route of trying to prove his production didn’t help the team. We lost in the 2014 divisional round because our wrs we absolutely garbage, same for the super bowl, just saying the following year he did the same for the ravens in the playoffs....

In a season he got hurt. Was two years older than his slightly above average last season with us. He was also responsible for a ton of OPIs that year. 

 Did he help when he was here? Of course. But would he have helped while subtracting players from a SB team with a #1 offense. How much could he help? Can he play LT. If you wanna dream...do it with context. 

Mans just give me a list of what to ignore about SS and what I should acknowledge. Does 2013 count because he got cut by DG. Do Hurney years count but not 3 years back. Or when can I start. I keep losing track of what I’m allowed to point out. 

You and I have debated Smiths character for pages because it is relevant to why he got cut. You think it’s ridiculous to believe he could have done something he’s done numerous times before. I don’t.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Brutal 

[Icege]

2 hours ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

That was a baseless rumor, have a hard time believing this wouldn’t have been a big story if true and I have a hard time believing cam would jack smith ass up like he did Norman if he pull a stunt like this 

Understandable, but the OP that shared it has a great reputation so to me that gives it at least the weight to be considered. This is reinforced for me especially when taking into account Agent 89's history of verbally and physically assaulting teammates along with Ben Hartsock's sharing of how Smitty bullied Cam.

[Cpt slay a ho]

54 minutes ago, Toomers said:

In a season he got hurt. Was two years older than his slightly above average last season with us. He was also responsible for a ton of OPIs that year. 

 Did he help when he was here? Of course. But would he have helped while subtracting players from a SB team with a #1 offense. How much could he help? Can he play LT. If you wanna dream...do it with context. 

Mans just give me a list of what to ignore about SS and what I should acknowledge. Does 2013 count because he got cut by DG. Do Hurney years count but not 3 years back. Or when can I start. I keep losing track of what I’m allowed to point out. 

You and I have debated Smiths character for pages because it is relevant to why he got cut. You think it’s ridiculous to believe he could have done something he’s done numerous times before. I don’t.

Lt isn’t context, Could he have replaced Jericho, Avant, Philly brown etc. he had a better year than our WR damn near every year off the team. 

Trying to figure out how hurney finds his way into a discussion about dg releasing smith and the manor he did it.....you and bringing up hurney in irrelevant arguments is some kind of niche of yours. Again what exactly does the 3 years before the gm that released him got hired have to do with this discussion, enlighten me please...

I haven’t debated whether smith was a saint or not, but to release smith because of his character and keep hardy on the team is quite the dilemma, doing so like you suggested because it’s based off an event that occurred 5 years ago is also a little off base. He continue on another team for 3 more years without any problems....