A realistic/interesting 1st round mock draft - CBSSports

[Sub Zero]

11 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I don't agree with his opinions because he is kind of a jerk,i do read what walter says and he does have some connections and came to same conclusion as everyone else or near the same number on Ferrell's 40. I used that draft scouts thing because it was the site you go to...I don't agree with there rankings of where players are but that doesn't mean their speed records are off. Just don't agree with where they rank players.I have never read or posted any of their info i just remembered you use it for your information and thought them telling you he's slow would get through to you but i guess not.... I'm showing projected times to you not football ability man lol. I also posted espns projected time I gave you 3-4 different sources so you would finally get the point. The guy isn't a good athlete. he's not Bosa, he's not Chubb, Hell he's not anything athletically. He's just a guy...

They have him as a high 4.68 and a low 4.8 guy and they are guessing because again he hasn't ran a legit recorded 40'... What don't you understand????.. None of his 40' times are facts because he hasn't been able to run any in this process..

And thanks for admitting that you will use something you don't agree with or respect to help  you make a point.. When you have been discovered being full of poo..

[Sub Zero]

4 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Both Bosa's weren't great athletes themselves... neither of them were barn burners and were just average.. the fact your guy is even slower than them says more about him than them. They also have some serious speed to power conversions. Basically they aren't fast but are very good at converting speed to power and are on another level than Ferrell. lets not compare them to him.

So the Bosa are basic now .. Even thoe both will be drafted higher than any of the players you covet..lol okay cool story bro..

[Sub Zero]

Yes the 37th ranked player in the league by other player is a basic athlete??

 

 

Hahahaha 

[micnificent28]

5 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

So the Bosa are basic now .. Even thoe both will be drafted higher than any of the players you covet..lol okay cool story bro..

They are basic in cones shuttles whatever else you want to measure them in underware. However Like i said,Nics 10 yard split which is his first 10 yards was better than Arron Donald and so on. He's special right there. His play strength is also on a different level than Ferrell's... These traits are why he will be drafted higher than anyone i covet. If i had a chance in hell at Bosa I would take him over the guys I mention but, since we know hes going top 3 why even mention him...Also me showing you 40 times from multiple sites wasnt the same as them all having different rankings on a guy and opinions. They all agree on his speed though which is the point im trying to make to you.

[TheSpecialJuan]

2 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

Welcome to debating with sub—zero.. your dumb uninformed if you don’t think Ferrell is athletic. Fact is I eat sleep and breath this draft stuff. I base my opinion off multiple sources and film. I buy draft books I subscribe to espn insider and read scouts inc, Kiper, Mcshay, Norris, Jeremiah, everything I can find even walterfootball(he’s kind of funny)

but every where you go people let you know he’s not an elite athlete like those guys. I’m gonna give you another example.

The magazine is excellent 

[Sub Zero]

43 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

They are basic in cones shuttles whatever else you want to measure them in underware. However Like i said,Nics 10 yard split which is his first 10 yards was better than Arron Donald and so on. He's special right there. His play strength is also on a different level than Ferrell's... These traits are why he will be drafted higher than anyone i covet. If i had a chance in hell at Bosa I would take him over the guys I mention but, since we know hes going top 3 why even mention him...Also me showing you 40 times from multiple sites wasnt the same as them all having different rankings on a guy and opinions. They all agree on his speed though which is the point im trying to make to you.

So again basically you get to cherry pick what traits or attributes you think is important or elite.. While using information from sites you may or may not respect that day?? Right..

Again both of the sites are guessing because the "facts" are he hasn't ran a recorded 40'.. And even their "guesses" (avg.) A full second faster than you think he is.. Again A 6'5 265lb guy avg. A 4.7 40' is a above avg. Athlete.. add in the "facts" that his 3 cone and 20 yard shuttle (on a hurt foot) are similar to Cubb and Bosa .  Means you're wrong ..

And at this point its 3 threads and counting "you" have derailed with your obsessed dislike of Ferrell.. You could  At least have some facts if you're going to keep doing this poo..

[Sub Zero]

Who is your man crush thread. 

Everybody else found it easy to post about the player they liked..

You were the only person who had to post about the player they didn't like..??

On 3/26/2019 at 12:51 AM, micnificent28 said:

anyone but farrell for me.

 

Now this thread..

 

On 3/29/2019 at 12:39 AM, micnificent28 said:

My god can we stop with the bs Farrell pick. We aren't taking that guy... clearly the franchise is looking for a pure pass rusher burns sweat style not just a guy in 4-3. We get it you guys love Farrell... same 3 guys keep reposting the look farrell crap.

 

Dude we get it.. How many threads do you need to post about your hatred for Ferrell in?? Smh

 

 

My god can we stop with the bs Farrell pick. We aren't taking that guy... clearly the franchise is looking for a pure pass rusher burns sweat style not just a guy in 4-3. We get it you guys love Farrell... same 3 guys keep reposting the look farrell crap.

[JARROD]

On 3/29/2019 at 10:42 AM, Shocker said:

His name is Ferrell.

I just don’t get the hate for that guy. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

[Shocker]

1 hour ago, JARROD said:

I just don’t get the hate for that guy. 

Warming up to him as well.  Especially at 16.  One thing with him you love is the motor.  Not a finished product either...although many scouts would disagree there.

Right now...Ferrell is a better football player than Sweat or Burns.  I stand by that claim.  Both those dudes have upside...mainly Burns.  Sweat is a workout warrior.  

[LinvilleGorge]

Starting to think Clelin Ferrell must've banged this dude's girlfriend... and mom... and sister. Maybe all at the same time.

[heel31ok]

9 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

In a generational talented class do you wanna settle for fine... I mean fine is fine... but better is what your shooting for.

Yes fine is fine...fine meaning a talent that fits the pick...

[Black&BlueBubba]

Here is what Matt Miller has in his latest mock.  He had us taking Burns and Ferrell going 17 to Giants. 

Right defensive end Clelin Ferrell can play with his hand in the dirt or standing up as an outside edge-rusher. Teams will love his length, burst and work ethic with a non-stop motor that allows him a number of effort sacks against top-tier blockers.

Ferrell's ability to convert speed to power is eye-opening and could be everything the Giants are looking for in a top-tier defensive end to build around.

1. I’m not sure why I thought he was a straight 4-3 guy.  I liked him early but then lost a little interest after the combine.  Hopefully the panthers can determine if the toe thing actually hampered him or if it’s BS. 
2. I will say this.  He is a high motor guy.  And I want more of those guys going forward.   

[Black&BlueBubba]

Found something interesting watching this  tape breakdown by Voch Lombardi.  He’s a complete Cowboy homer but does know his stuff. He loved his 2017 tape much more than 2018.  Ferrell was much quicker. And he did this video 3 months ago before the combine before anyone knew he had the toe issue.  Maybe it hampered him much more than we knew this season. If we draft him I hope we get the 2017 version.