How early would you take a QB?

[musicman]

I wouldn't take a QB in this years draft, we need other positions filled. If Cam went down, nobody is going to carry the team anyway, its built around Cam. If he is successful this year, then keep moving ahead and we restocked a lot of young people around him. If his arm doesn't come back the way it should, we are drafting a 1st round QB or signing a top one because we had a bad year. It's almost like you have to take on the risk of all in with Cam this year and then make this call. 

[t96]

1 hour ago, Palmetto said:

Any Qb drafted at 16 means last year's Starter is likely out the door

If any team drafts a Qb that high they have been planning it all off season

Not necessarily. Look at Rodgers

[Palmetto]

14 minutes ago, t96 said:

Not necessarily. Look at Rodgers

So we are going to pretend like Favre wasn't 36 and already on his i may retire routine

[Black on Black]

11 hours ago, poorboysrev said:

There’s some drunk ass Duke fans in here... I’m from just outside Charlotte NC born and raised...Panthers fan from the start. I could give a rats ass about the college team rivalries and such, but no actual Panthers fan would say that.  I’m definitely not a what pro QB came from what school aficionado but what fuging pro QB worth a damn ever came from Duke? We don’t tell you how to play basketball, lacrosse , and badminton. Remember you drink a Stella Artois with pinkies out...this Christian Ponder 2.0 cheerleading nonsense while our former MVP of the NFL big boy league gets the chance to work his way back from injury, which he’ got while  carrying this damn team is nonsense. He’s more than earned that chance

Listen, I like Jones but I would not draft him at 16 because we still have Cam, not because he went to Duke. To make an argument of what good QB has Duke ever produced is silly, because honesty before Cam, what QB had Auburn ever produced? They never had and haven't since him either. I would rather look at Tyree Jackson or Will Grier later in the draft because we have Cam and those guys have potential in a few years to be good, and no need to play them right away. 

[JARROD]

9 hours ago, RIAnBOW said:

Nope, not what I said.

I did say drafting a QB (specifically D. Jones, The Duke University) at #16 was appropriate....never made any comments at all about possible playing time.

 

If you draft a quarterback at 16,  a first round pick, this is your starter within 2 seasons. That’s saying you are moving on from your current quarterback.

Drafting a guy that will be a backup that could become more is a 3rd and later. Just like New England has done repeatedly, if that guy becomes more then you have trade options and you have insurance on your franchise QB.

Grier or one of these in the mid rounds is totally on the table 

if Daniel Jones was a 3rd round pick, that would be ok—although I think CB FS or OLB like D’Andre Walker would be better use of it. 

[Shocker]

17 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Saw an article suggesting that QB picks not only increase the chance you hit on one but become good compensation or trading picks if you can develop one. With all the school's out there, there are more than a half dozen guys with NFL potential no matter what the pundits try to say. Not that we get Murray but the draft is the best way to get a cheap quarterback to develop. I expect we could still get a good one with our compensatory 3rd or 4th rounder 

https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nfl/2019/4/3/18293100446/arizona-cardinals-revolutionize-nfl-draft-josh-rosen-kyler-murray

Agree with this...we don’t know if Cam will be 100% and choosing a QB could cover us for now...and give us a major asset for later.

[t96]

1 hour ago, Palmetto said:

So we are going to pretend like Favre wasn't 36 and already on his i may retire routine

Are we going to pretend that Cam’s future here is guaranteed? 

[Navy_football]

The Panthers have two QBs outside of Newton that can start and run the offense. Hell, Hienecke had over 50 attempts against the Saints to end the season. 

Build the team up with the strengths of this draft. Draft a QB next season if you need to, but don't reach for a player in the first round of a relatively weak QB class - that's the kind of stuff bad franchises do. The Panthers aren't a bad franchise, they've been unlucky and a little slow to accept change. But a QB at 16 in this draft would be borderline reckless and irresponsible. 

[Palmetto]

7 minutes ago, t96 said:

Are we going to pretend that Cam’s future here is guaranteed? 

Then that means they are moving on like I said

So stop with the run around

If you don't think a  Qbs future is guaranteed you are replacing him not drafting his back up

[t96]

7 minutes ago, Palmetto said:

Then that means they are moving on like I said

So stop with the run around

If you don't think a  Qbs future is guaranteed you are replacing him not drafting his back up

You draft the BPA. If that happens to be a QB that would sit and learn behind Cam while we see if he’s healthy or not, then so be it. We could easily draft a QB in the first and have him sit behind Cam for a year or two.

[mc52beast]

Why would we take a qb this year when next years draft is loaded? Don’t see much talent in this years crop, ride Cam and Allen if needed then get one in 2020

[Palmetto]

11 minutes ago, t96 said:

You draft the BPA. If that happens to be a QB that would sit and learn behind Cam while we see if he’s healthy or not, then so be it. We could easily draft a QB in the first and have him sit behind Cam for a year or two.

Sitting for a year or two is replacing him ...right....right

Either the team thinks thier Qb is healthy

And they are building around him

Or they believe he's not so they have to think about replacing him

Again teams with multiple needs don't draft  Qbs at 16 to be a back up

When Mahommes was drafted everyone knew Smith was out the door 

Jones isn't some can't miss prospect like Luck if they think Newton is the guy they would bring in a vet to start until he is healthy not draft a guy at 16

 

 

[t96]

4 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Why would we take a qb this year when next years draft is loaded? Don’t see much talent in this years crop, ride Cam and Allen if needed then get one in 2020

Agree, only one I really like in the first two rounds at all is Murray and he’s locked into first overall.

[poorboysrev]

25 minutes ago, Black on Black said:

Listen, I like Jones but I would not draft him at 16 because we still have Cam, not because he went to Duke. To make an argument of what good QB has Duke ever produced is silly, because honesty before Cam, what QB had Auburn ever produced? They never had and haven't since him either. I would rather look at Tyree Jackson or Will Grier later in the draft because we have Cam and those guys have potential in a few years to be good, and no need to play them right away. 

Exactly my main point...if you read any of my later comments i said it really wasn’t about the school i was being sarcastic as hell cause i thought posting that was a crazy thing to say.

It’s more about the lack of respect Cam gets. Every time I walk into a bar or anywhere the first question other Panthers fans ask me is “yeah but what do you think about Cam?” And that was wayyy before the injury and generally is about a lot more than his play on field....I’ll just let that sleeping dog lie but it’s the truth. Every post dude made after confirmed I was right in why he was saying that. So instead of turning it into another debate on race, clothes, dancing or people acting like he completes 40% of his passes I just made fun of what he said. My apologies to Duke...it’s fans..alumni all the downtrodden. 

You don’t draft a backup QB at 16. IF it looks like his shoulder is done this year and we need to cut bait or take a QB high next year then fine the team has to do what it has to do. I just think he’s done plenty enough to get the benefit of the doubt this year and a chance to rebound from the injury.