Bench: I’m going to keep Will Grier safe

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

7 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

i know i bring this up a lot but i mean you defended nolan nawrocki's racist hit piece on cam. OP is mad that a 3rd round pick has been spent on a player who will not contribute to a competitive panthers team and their specific comment doesn't come close to crossing the line in the same way as "cam's fake smile." cam just wanted to come in and contribute after all.

Why don't you go back to the tinderbox can where you belong and stop making comments bringing up racist crap because it has nothing to do with this thread at all.

[raz]

i think the cam worship is like the way i remember jake in '03.  most magical sports season i've been apart of.  some of those guys were bigger than the team to me.   i'm a little older now and team first, but i'll always remember jake n steven and stevonne and jp and kj and....all them in a special way. and a lot of people came on board after that.  they have cam

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, Michaelinraleigh said:

Steve Smith is the best player we've ever had.

Then even tho he choked away the Superbowl John Kasey

Then probably Jordan Gross

4a Jake 4B Cam

5 Michael Bates

I will agree on Steve Smith. Kasey and Gross better than Cam, though? Come on, that is just pure haterade. 

[TheRed]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yes I have and I said those things were dumb as well.

That's a total straw man.

Simple question: Do you hope Grier plays well or not?

And yes, that includes if Newton's health turns out to be bad.

Let's be realistic. You can count on one hand the number of actual fans here who want Grier to be a failure. Some people are undoubtedly unhappy, but the majority that I've seen here do not want what you are suggesting.

The situation with Grier isn't even in the same universe as how bad things were here when we drafted Cam. That vitriol was revealing.

[JawnyBlaze]

Third round is where you start getting backups. Stop acting like we wasted a high pick on a backup QB. Outside the occasional rare gem, guys in the 3rd don’t usually come in and start right away if ever. First two rounds you get contributors, the rest are for depth. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Let's be realistic. You can count on one hand the number of actual fans here who want Grier to be a failure. Some people are undoubtedly unhappy, but the majority that I've seen here do not want what you are suggesting.

The situation with Grier isn't even in the same universe as how bad things were here when we drafted Cam. That vitriol was revealing.

So this is retribution for that?

I can't speak for everybody else, but I will say that I was against drafting Newton. It had nothing to do with race. It had everything to do with the kind of system he was part of as well as other factors.

Once he was drafted though, I said "I'm on board" and have supported him ever since. It's the same thing I did for Luke Kuechly, Kerry Collins and every other draft pick I've disagreed with.

Are we going to see that for Grier or are people just going to b-tch and whine about the fact that we picked up a backup quarterback?

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Let's be realistic. You can count on one hand the number of actual fans here who want Grier to be a failure. Some people are undoubtedly unhappy, but the majority that I've seen here do not want what you are suggesting.

The situation with Grier isn't even in the same universe as how bad things were here when we drafted Cam. That vitriol was revealing.

Yeah, seriously. People were losing their minds.

[JawnyBlaze]

11 minutes ago, Michaelinraleigh said:

Steve Smith is the best player we've ever had.

Then even tho he choked away the Superbowl John Kasey

Then probably Jordan Gross

4a Jake 4B Cam

5 Michael Bates

That’s absolute lunacy. Smitty and Cam at 1a and b. Then Kuechly, then Peppers, then Gross and Kalil. Then a bunch of guys that were really good for a short period of time like Stephen Davis and Kris Jenkins or guys that were solid for a long time like Jake and Kasay

[Kuhndog94]

You guys are so fugging salty. It's kinda hilarious. 

[therealmjl]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hoping a guy we used a 3rd round pick on plays poorly, whether it's because you care more about one player than you so the team or because it'll make certain fans get riled up or frankly any other reason, is stupid.

I know you’re some obsessed WVU fanboy of Grier, but I don’t care if he sucks or succeeds. I don’t ever want to see him take the field this season or next, or really in the next 5 years if Cam Newton is back to his normal healthy self. 

So then, it’s a wasted draft pick if the above comes to fruition. There is no arguing that a backup who will never see the field in 5 years is a waste when we have a plethora of other holes on this roster.

[therealmjl]

Nobody is actively pulling for Grier to fail.

we just don’t want him to take the field, because why would anyone ever want a backup to play?

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, mjligon said:

I know you’re some obsessed WVU fanboy of Grier, but I don’t care if he sucks or succeeds. I don’t ever want to see him take the field this season or next, or really in the next 5 years if Cam Newton is back to his normal healthy self. 

So then, it’s a wasted draft pick if the above comes to fruition. There is no arguing that a backup who will never see the field in 5 years is a waste.

Wrong. I'm an obsessed fanboy of the Panthers. That means I want to see them win and I don't give a sh-t who's starting for them when they do.

If it's Cam Newton, fine. If it's Will Grier, fine. If it's Kyle Allen, fine. If it's Jimmy Clausen, fine. As long as we're winning, so what?

If Grier plays poorly, he should be let go. If Newton can't return to health, he should be let go. if somebody else outplays both of them, then they should start. Whatever is best for the team.

That's how it works.

[Kuhndog94]

1 minute ago, mjligon said:

I know you’re some obsessed WVU fanboy of Grier, but I don’t care if he sucks or succeeds. I don’t ever want to see him take the field this season or next, or really in the next 5 years if Cam Newton is back to his normal healthy self. 

So then, it’s a wasted draft pick if the above comes to fruition. There is no arguing that a backup who will never see the field in 5 years is a waste.

So even if he was the next Drew Brees Tom Brady, you'd still rather him sit on the bench because you love Cam? 

That's some next level D riding right there. 

I love Cam as much as the next guy and I have defended him for years, but the REALITY is we NEED a good back up as insurance. Cam isn't invincible as we seen last year. If he can't throw past 20 yards this year, we'll need someone who can.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, mjligon said:

I know you’re some obsessed WVU fanboy of Grier, but I don’t care if he sucks or succeeds. I don’t ever want to see him take the field this season or next, or really in the next 5 years if Cam Newton is back to his normal healthy self. 

So then, it’s a wasted draft pick if the above comes to fruition. There is no arguing that a backup who will never see the field in 5 years is a waste.

Yeah, I will argue that all day long. It was a third round pick. He is SUPPOSED to be a backup. You keep backups because people get injured or miss games or get thrown in when you are mopping the floor with the opponent. That is like saying because someone has never missed a game, you should never have a back up on the roster because they never miss games. That's just crazy talk.