Mike Minter & Hall of Honor

[pantherclaw]

Nope.

[therealmjl]

Nah

[raz]

i voted yes.  he meant so much to those teams with his leadership and toughness.   he didn't repair his bicep so he wouldn't miss time.   

[DeAngelo Beason]

Honestly... Minter was average.  Sorry.  No.

[Ricky Spanish]

8 hours ago, Still Brooklyn said:

First I'd remove the PSL fans, and McCormick or whatever his name is. Should be players only.

But ... Mills, Smith, and Kasay. Eventually Peppers. Luke and Cam down the road.

Minter, Walls, Kevin Greene, Gross, Thomas Davis, Jake, etc. all have great stories, but they just aren't top tier. Hell, I'd even consider saying no to Kasay as it defeats my criteria. Hoover deserves it but he's a FB and no one cares about FBs.

Gross: Perennial pro bowler - 1x AP first team all pro and one of the best Tackles in the game when he played.

Thomas Davis: 3x pro bowler (played at that level well before he was acknowledged) 1X AP first team all pro, 1x second team all pro, Walter Payton man of the year award winner, Came back from 3 ACL surgeries on the same knee, dislocated his finger and popped it back in on the same play to make a tackle, broke his forearm in the NFC championship game and came back to play in the super bowl. Dude's an iron man and all time great panther. If ANYONE deserves to be in the Panther's hall of honor, it's him. 

[therealmjl]

28 minutes ago, YETI said:

Best safety we’ve ever had

Tallest midget in the room

[XOBlackxJokerOX]

10 hours ago, NJPanthers12 said:

I was hoping to keep this conversation to just Minter, but I am curious. If you could start the HOH over from scratch with retired players only, who would you include ?

Sam Mills (His "Keep Pounding" has defined the Panthers from his time in to the future), Steve Smith, Thomas Davis (He's had an exceptional career himself plus his dedication to the team and community), Julius Peppers (the only home grown HOFer we've had outside of Steve Smith), and above all... Ken Lucas' nose. Cam and Luke are no brainers after their respective careers are done. Other than that, we have nobody that had "exceptional careers" to warrant that honor that spent the majority of their career with us. 

[XOBlackxJokerOX]

1 hour ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Gross: Perennial pro bowler - 1x AP first team all pro and one of the best Tackles in the game when he played.

Thomas Davis: 3x pro bowler (played at that level well before he was acknowledged) 1X AP first team all pro, 1x second team all pro, Walter Payton man of the year award winner, Came back from 3 ACL surgeries on the same knee, dislocated his finger and popped it back in on the same play to make a tackle, broke his forearm in the NFC championship game and came back to play in the super bowl. Dude's an iron man and all time great panther. If ANYONE deserves to be in the Panther's hall of honor, it's him. 

Gross was a good player but the guy wasn't Andrew Witworth or Duane Brown for us. 

[Ricky Spanish]

20 minutes ago, XOBlackxJokerOX said:

Gross was a good player but the guy wasn't Andrew Witworth or Duane Brown for us. 

Totes, but he's the best blindside blocker we've ever had and was a top 10 Tackle in his prime, plus a leader on and off the field. 

Hell, Cam's kickball thing was originally Gross'. Gross definitely deserves it. 

[MillionDollarCam]

They need to set and define a certain rubric for who gets in and who doesn’t, similar to how UNC has the rubric for retired jerseys and getting your jersey in the rafter.

Jersey in the Rafters

- MVP of NCAA Championship team

- Member of Gold Medal Olympic team

- First or Second All-America

- ACC Player of the Year

- NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player

Jersey Retired

- Win Oscar Robertson Trophy

- Win Association National Player of the Year

- Win National Association of Basketball  Coaches Player of the Year

- Win Wooden Award

- Win Naismith Award

- Win Sporting News Player of the Year.

 

When you have a set rubric and criteria there’s no arguments. Sure, Luke Maye was a great player but he doesn’t meet the criteria to get his jersey in the rafters.

If a criteria isn’t set we’re going to end up with guys like Mario Addison in the ROH because he’s one of the all-time Panthers sack leaders.

[mc52beast]

12 hours ago, Still Brooklyn said:

First I'd remove the PSL fans, and McCormick or whatever his name is. Should be players only.

But ... Mills, Smith, and Kasay. Eventually Peppers. Luke and Cam down the road.

Minter, Walls, Kevin Greene, Gross, Thomas Davis, Jake, etc. all have great stories, but they just aren't top tier. Hell, I'd even consider saying no to Kasay as it defeats my criteria. Hoover deserves it but he's a FB and no one cares about FBs.

Not sure how you can say Gross isn’t top tier, he made three pro bowls and was an anchor at LT for a decade. Maybe you haven’t noticed what’s happened since he left?

[raz]

3 hours ago, bull123 said:

was minter a lifer with us?

yes he was.  and i bet marvin harrison thinks he deserves to be in it. 

[Still Brooklyn]

2 hours ago, mc52beast said:

Not sure how you can say Gross isn’t top tier, he made three pro bowls and was an anchor at LT for a decade. Maybe you haven’t noticed what’s happened since he left?

I just think the wall should be the best of the best, not just great players. If you poll NFL fans to name the best tackles in the past decade, I bet not many would say or even remember Jordan. Not knocking his talent at all, he was awesome. If we just add names to the stadium wall it'll end up like the Yankees Monument Park. Too many.

[NJPanthers12]

Glad to see Minter getting his due in this poll. I do think he should be included in the hall of honor and hopefully he ends up there eventually with Rucker.