9 straight losses.

[Mr. Scot]

39 minutes ago, SuperBowlBound said:

Colbert's contract expires after the 2020 draft. Haven't seen anyone discuss this recently but it's definitely worth monitoring. 

Just read the tea leaves from this...(link to article below)

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2019/07/26/pittsburgh-steelers-kevin-colbert-training-camp-art-rooney/stories/201907260090

There's been speculation he may retire, but that isn't addressed in this article.

It's also at least conceivable that he might want to move on (granted, that could be wishful thinking on my part).

[trueblade]

On 9/13/2019 at 8:33 AM, ellis said:

I had the nerve to ask legitimate questions about how good of an owner he would be, and I got shut down by people here and elsewhere with the billions argument.

I said it at the time he retained Marty and Ron. He's a smart guy and a brilliant stockbroker, but as an NFL owner, he's a rookie. He leaned on his experience with the Pittsburgh model, and he made a rookie mistake.

[ellis]

Just to be clear, I don’t think he’s a bad owner. A lot of that is to be determined. I just didn’t jump on board right away with everything I heard. I do think it might’ve been a mistake to bring the coach and GM back, but then again, maybe he has a plan long-range for a different tandem that wasn’t available at that moment.

Or, maybe he just likes Ron and Marty. 

[thefuzz]

6 minutes ago, ellis said:

Just to be clear, I don’t think he’s a bad owner. A lot of that is to be determined. I just didn’t jump on board right away with everything I heard. I do think it might’ve been a mistake to bring the coach and GM back, but then again, maybe he has a plan long-range for a different tandem that wasn’t available at that moment.

Or, maybe he just likes Ron and Marty. 

Or, maybe he didn't want to be a "yankee" coming down here throwing his weight around?

 

[electro's horse]

I think it's fine he waited a year. If Cam is healthy right now, they're probably 2-0. 

but it's pretty clear Cam isn't healthy and might not be again. Time to start over. 

[Mr. Scot]

On 9/13/2019 at 9:12 AM, TheMaulClaw said:

You're absolutely right. At the end of last year it would have made total sense. I think he messed up his window.

He gave them a year that a lot of guys wouldn't have.

I can't imagine anybody thinking bad of him if he fires them at the end of this season. He's still the new guy and both of them have had plenty of time to prove themselves.

[electro's horse]

also I don't really hate anything Hurney has done since he came back. maybe outside will Grier.

Daryll Wiliams has turned into a pumpkin, but he threw a 2nd round pick and a free agent at the line to try to get it together, and there was reason to believe moton was starting material. 

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

also I don't really hate anything Hurney has done since he came back. maybe outside will Grier.

Daryll Wiliams has turned into a pumpkin, but he threw a 2nd round pick and a free agent at the line to try to get it together, and there was reason to believe moton was starting material. 

I think that's a running theme with Hurney.

You look at individual moves and might think they look okay, but somehow the overall results just tend to not be what you hoped for.

[electro's horse]

33 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think that's a running theme with Hurney.

You look at individual moves and might think they look okay, but somehow the overall results just tend to not be what you hoped for.

oh not at all

Hurney post Otah to Cam and Luke was a complete flaming disaster at every level.

And even with those Cam and luke drafts, the rest of the picks were traded for like magic beans. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

oh not at all

Hurney post Otah to Cam and Luke was a complete flaming disaster at every level.

And even with those Cam and luke drafts, the rest of the picks were traded for like magic beans. 

No argument on those. I'm talking about some others.

[falconidae]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

He gave them a year that a lot of guys wouldn't have.

I can't imagine anybody thinking bad of him if he fires them at the end of this season. He's still the new guy and both of them have had plenty of time to prove themselves.

Think they convinced Tepper that the best way to win immediately was to keep the team in place and hope Cam got back to  being Cam. They're probably right, any new regime is going to take a year or two to get established.

Unfortunately for Tepper  and the team, worst possible scenario happened and Cam isn't healthy.

 

[Mr. Scot]

28 minutes ago, falconidae said:

Think they convinced Tepper that the best way to win immediately was to keep the team in place and hope Cam got back to  being Cam. They're probably right, any new regime is going to take a year or two to get established.

Unfortunately for Tepper  and the team, worst possible scenario happened and Cam isn't healthy.

 

It's not just that. The team they built around him has definite issues. Among them the fact that they put themselves in position to have to count on players who were older, coming off injury or coming off down seasons in important positions.

It would be really easy to blame all of this on Newton's injuries, but that's not all there is to it. As much as anything, Newton being hurt may have exposed that the team they built around him wasn't really all that good.

[falconidae]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's not just that. The team they built around him has definite issues. Among them the fact that they put themselves in position to have to count on players who were older, coming off injury or coming off down seasons in important positions.

It would be really easy to blame all of this on Newton's injuries, but that's not all there is to it. As much as anything, Newton being hurt may have exposed that the team they built around him wasn't really all that good.

Don't think they did themselves any favors in the offseason either. Would have gone for a vet back up, used the 2nd and 3rd picks on players that could have contributed immediately , not down the road.

[Toomers]

3 hours ago, falconidae said:

Don't think they did themselves any favors in the offseason either. Would have gone for a vet back up, used the 2nd and 3rd picks on players that could have contributed immediately , not down the road.

Shhhh....

 We aren’t allowed to say such things around these parts. No matter how true it is.