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No wasted timeouts again today.

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5 minutes ago, CRA said:

I see what is going on here....

that aside, it is worth the the time to poo on Ron for that horrific timeout at the end to give the refs a look at the PI in the endzone.

I'm sorry, but I find it very hard to believe the NFL would call a PI after review on that play.  DB had his eyes on the ball, and the Jag WR got both hands on the ball and was able to go up and catch it without interference.  

Ron calling a timeout there isn't terrible, I realize in the emotion of the game, you just want it to be over and think it was really bad.  I just think he knew it wasn't very likely and it was more important to make sure the defense was correctly set-up.

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32 minutes ago, CatTower said:

With less than 4 minutes remaining in both the 2nd and 4th quarters, the Panthers had 3 timeouts.

 

I think we can conclude that it's not a coaching problem with burning unnecessary timeouts, no?

I think regardless of whether you love Cam or hate him, this is a very fair observation.  I tend to support Cam more than focus on his shortcomings, but I'm also coming to this conclusion.

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2 minutes ago, CatTower said:

I'm sorry, but I find it very hard to believe the NFL would call a PI after review on that play.  DB had his eyes on the ball, and the Jag WR got both hands on the ball and was able to go up and catch it without interference.  

Ron calling a timeout there isn't terrible, I realize in the emotion of the game, you just want it to be over and think it was really bad.  I just think he knew it wasn't very likely and it was more important to make sure the defense was correctly set-up.

The announcers on CBS pointed out that Jacksonville immediately subbed in a different fresh receiver that Cockrell would be covering. Their notion was that maybe Ron called the timeout because he was worried the CB who just had to go max effort on that play would have to cover a guy who was completely fresh. Most of the time announcers are worthless, but this actually struck me as a plausible notion and a timely observation if true.

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I honestly don’t think Kyle calls audibles or has access to full usage of the offensive playbook, these past few weeks while we’ve seen standout plays from Kyle unless I can be corrected I’ve yet to witness anything like described.

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26 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

    Yeah, because every game plays out the same. We had time outs left, and we did not have Cam. Ergo...Cams' fault.

 

    The Huddle, you gotta love it.

No I'm more Cam supporter than Cam critic. I try to be evenhanded and I have no anti Cam agenda, but I have noticed that since Allen has been our qb, both timeouts and play clock have been far better managed. I think the evidence suggests there is something to this notion. This isn't just a today thing, this has been marinating for several weeks now. Keep an eye on it next week and beyond and judge for yourself.

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2 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

What I want to know is why does the communication look fast with Allen but Cam seems to have issues.  I wonder if they skimmed down terminology or something for Allen.  Odd. 

Me too.  I truly believe the playbook has been custom made to fit around Kyle’s abilities. Things like the read option (which honestly is a blessing to have been removed) hasn’t been seen in weeks. Hell, I don’t even seen him call for blitz pick ups. It’s an interesting take for sure.

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1 minute ago, rico6 said:

Me too.  I truly believe the playbook has been custom made to fit around Kyle’s abilities. Things like the read option (which honestly is a blessing to have been removed) hasn’t been seen in weeks. Hell, I don’t even seen him call for blitz pick ups. It’s an interesting take for sure.

I'm wiling to consider this as a possibility.

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Cam haters are in heaven right now. Every little thing that goes right while Kyle plays will be a Cam weakness. 
 

Y’all really need to get a grip. Allen is nowhere near even close to a 100% Cam right now. With a healthy Cam we aren’t giving the ball to CMC at the goal line so he can throw a pass. 
 

And a healthy Cam is for damn sure throwing for more than 185 yards against that Jags secondary.

Allen right now is a game manager. It’s clear Norv doesn’t want him throwing deep, either because of trust or because the line can’t protect him. Maybe Allen improves and becomes a really good qb but right now he can’t touch a healthy Cam

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