Full analysis from Joe Person

[NanuqoftheNorth]

3 minutes ago, SBiii said:

I am taking the other side of Person's trade.

Assuming Cam gets healthy both physically and mentally I expect him to be in a Panthers uniform next year. 

$21 million is nothing to Tepper and in the short-run and he's not going to let a potentially franchise QB get away over a measly $21 million.

The obvious problem is the Panthers have hoped for a healthy Cam going into the last two seasons and it just hasn't worked out for them. 

Regardless, a healthy Cam would give the team options going forward.  Depending on Allen and Grier's growth during the remainder of this season, there is still a chance the team decides to go after yet another QB in the draft. 

None of this is necessarily a bad thing.

It is good to have options at QB. 

[OceanPanther]

14 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

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This feels like the beginning of the end of Cam Newton's time with the Panthers

I'd strongly encourage those of you who are able to do so to read the entire article (it's worth the read) but here are some relevant excerpts:

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The Panthers put Newton on injured reserve Tuesday in a move that ended his season, and very possibly his Carolina career.

Newton will be 31 by the start of next season. He’s undergone two shoulder surgeries in recent years and tried unsuccessfully to fight through a Lisfranc injury this season.

And the Panthers can save $19.1 million against the salary cap by trading or cutting him, which is what the NFL front office personnel I’ve spoken to across the league believe will happen.

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Now it will fall on Hurney, who has vowed not to let his emotions get in the way of his decision-making, and owner David Tepper to make the call on Newton’s long-term future here. And those discussions will certainly include using some of that $19.1 million for a new contract for running back Christian McCaffrey and, potentially, quarterback Kyle Allen.

Allen somehow has gotten overshadowed in all of the speculation and questions about Newton. But the Panthers might have been willing to wait another month on Newton if Allen had bombed his two-month audition behind center.

No, Allen isn’t anything close to the dual-threat athlete that a healthy Newton is. But the second-year quarterback, who never found his footing in college, has displayed a good arm, an ability to read NFL defenses and the confidence of a first-round pick, not an undrafted free agent.

And if you listen carefully to what Hurney and Rivera have said about Allen, who’s 5-1 this year and 6-1 in seven career starts, it sounds like they may view him as more than just a bridge quarterback until third-round pick Will Grier or some other quarterback from the 2020 or ’21 draft is ready.

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Rivera was impressed with the way Allen bounced back from his first bad start — a three-interception, seven-sack game in a 38-point loss at San Francisco. Though Allen overthrew a couple of receivers deep in Sunday’s 30-20 win against Tennessee, he avoided big mistakes, directed a 90-yard touchdown drive and finished with 232 yards and two TDs on 17-of-32 passing.

“Like I’ve always told you, it doesn’t seem like a lot of things faze him,” Rivera said. “He had a good week of practice. I just don’t think it fazed him, I really don’t. He looked confident out there during practice, had a good week.”

Assuming he stays healthy, Allen will have another eight weeks to prove he’s more Jake Delhomme than Matt Moore.

He’ll do so against the meatier half of the schedule, beginning Sunday in Green Bay, but won’t have to wonder when Newton might be back to reclaim the job.

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There figures to be a couple of teams who will look at Newton’s linebacker’s build, the MVP award on his resume and his competitive drive, and decide he has something left. And he very well may.

But as the weeks and wins have stacked up since that fateful August night in Foxboro, it has seemed less and less likely the Panthers will be among them.

 A  full analysis would have included ..   

IR is 8 weeks. (  December 30 ) ..    So hypothetically..  lets say  Kyle takes us to the playoffs..  Season over and we make the wild card..  
Going into the playoffs , do you want  Will Grier as your back up going into the playoffs,  or Cam Newton ??  

Now maybe I'm reaching..  but as a fan., and that's all we all are,,   so until we're out of the playoffs.  we think we have a chance..   And it's a team game..  and Cam would be a better back up than Will Grier..  and Cam would be who you want to come in,  if something happened to Kyle.. 

[Rastlet]

The crux of the matter is the decision hasn't been made yet and anyone who tells you otherwise is speculating. 8 games left in the season to see if Kyle Allen is the real deal or not. Until that time there is no way the Panthers will make the Cam decision unless some team just blows them away with a trade offer.

 

[ickmule]

Who says Cams foot will heal properly ? Y’all are forgetting that this injury has ended many a players career.  All of this conversation is a waste of time until we know he is healthy.  

[Sam Mills Fan]

15 hours ago, rico6 said:

Now we take Joe Person’s word as the holy gospel.

 

 

Ok Huddle. 

It really is amazing. People treated Joe as a joke when he was at the Observer, yet now he's god because someone else is signing his paychecks.

[DeAngelo Beason]

17 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is the information that's out there, people.

If it happens to be something you don't want to hear, sorry but denial doesn't actually change anything.

You can ignore, run down, insult and discredit every single source that doesn't say what you want it to say. It'll have exactly zero effect on what's going to happen.

Reality is reality.

Madness has ensued.

[MHS831]

23 hours ago, rico6 said:

Now we take Joe Person’s word as the holy gospel.

 

 

Ok Huddle. 

How many 45 year old men do you know who rock massive amounts of hair gel and turn the collar up on their golf shirts? 

I rest my case.

[grateflday]

I've got to see more and maybe I am seeing it differently than others, but with this part of the article .... "has displayed a good arm" ........  I' think really??  It seams to me Allen under throws on the deep balls.