Hurney needs to go

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

So this is really more of a Gettleman thing than a Hurney thing for you?

No, No, No. This is about WHY nobody in the NFL will let him anywhere near their organization. Just answer that. 
 

Ryan Grigson got another job. Twice. That’s sad. 

[Car123]

5 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Its not 

I dont want Gettleman back.  Just pointing out.  As bad as Gettleman was.  He still got a job right away.  Just pointing out, if your avg at best, youll still get a job. 

 

So if Hurney couldn't get a phone call outside of the local radio station.  What does that tell you.  What does that tell you, that people who actually know football wouldnt even consider him for anything?  While Gettleman could get a job right away.

Little did the Giants know that the best players on Gettleman's teams were another GM's players. The Giants are paying for that hire.

[45catfan]

Hurney did one thing better in his second stint here, not get us in cap hell.  Beyond that, he's always been a horrible at evaluating talent.  Grant he's missed the big first round bust, but in the grand scheme of things if all you are doing is hitting on your first rounder, you pretty much suck.

[Cpt slay a ho]

34 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Donte Jackson- would be a 3rd CB on half the teams in the league.

Gaulden- who no one had a higher than a 5th rd grade, has already been cut.......in year 2.

Ian Thomas has shown flashes, but cant even get on the field.

Carter has not looked good when in

 

 

 

 

 

These are picks from H2.0

These arent even H1.0, who's picks and contract drove this team to become the worst team in football.

 

 

If Hurney is so good, someone would've called him after being fired.  People like to say bu...bu...bu...Gettleman.  Even as bad as Gettleman was, a team picked him right up.

Hurney couldn't even get a phone call from. THIRTY ONE TEAMS until his Buddy decided to bring him back.  If he was just even slightly avg, someone wouldve given him a shot, a role somewhere.  But NO ONE would.  He's a nice guy, we get it.  But just being nice doesn't get you anywhere, thus the reason why Jerry never had back to back winning seasons.

 

 

If Rivera gets fired, some team will hire him.  If Marty gets fired, the only people giving him another shot is WFNZ.  Thats telling

This is why I can’t take some of you seriously, Carter has a blocked punt for a td and a onside kick recovery, the only bright spot on ST’s

Thomas doesn’t see the field for god knows what reason.

You guys harp on gaulden like Daryl Worley’s, daeshon hall, a 3rd use to trade up for funchess, and turner, who’s been grossly overrated here is what our 3rd round picks were before hurney came back. This isn’t even a knock on DG, this is just to show how easily it is to miss on 3rd round picks but for some reason people wanna act like gaulden busting is the end of the world

the issue has always been Rivera  

[Toomers]

12 minutes ago, SmartyHurney said:

naw hurney ran over his ego

he's been so butthurt since his daddy gettleman got shitcanned and hurney got re-hired.

meanwhile gettleman has made the giants somehow worse two years in a row. don't be shock if the giants pick number one overall this year.

 Nah. Hurney ran over my team. 
 

   I don’t know or care what Gettleman is doing. But I bet he has a job in a month. How about your idol? Or jump in with some actual football information instead of accusing me of the same ridiculous bias you just came in here with. 
 

   

[ncfan]

4 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Little did the Giants know that the best players on Gettleman's teams were another GM's players. The Giants are paying for that hire.

And much that we did know.

 

Most of those players are still here and this team magically reverted back to its old self

[Krovvy]

16 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  I should have. If we use your standards, any player looks like a good player. Why did you stop at 2008? Two guys in 11 years is your proof. It’s more proof of the reason he can’t get a job in football. 

Yes, my standards. In other words the standards of successful draft picks. Not every pick has to be a Pro-Bowler or All-Pro, which we've found more than most teams, so I chose a standard of players that were legitimately NFL quality, and made a career in the Not For Long league.

So why did I stop at 2008? As I said, I thought it was enough. But we can go back further.

2007:

Donte Rosario (was in the league for 7 seasons)

Tim Shaw (was in the league for 6 seasons)

This is the draft were we picked up Ryan Kalil and Charles Johnson in round 2 and 3 if you care.

2006:

Will Montgomery (Was in the league for 10 seasons)

2005:

Geoff Hangartner

Jovan Haye (was in the league for 7 seasons)

Joe Burger (Retired last year after 13 seasons in the league)

The same year we drafted Even Mathis in the third round.

2004:

Micheal Gaines (Was in the league until 2010)

The same year we drafted Travelle Wharton in the third round.

2003:

Pretty poor year besides Gross and Ricky Manning.

2002:

Dante Wesley (Was in the league until 2010)

Was a pretty poor year outside of Peppers, Witherspoon.

Now take your time and lookup another team, say the Ravens, and report back.

 

 

 

[Krovvy]

4 minutes ago, ncfan said:

And much that we did know.

 

Most of those players are still here and this team magically reverted back to its old self

How many of Gettleman's first round picks, actually just picks in general, are going to be on the team next season?

Oh, and I guess this is more of a Gettleman thing than Hurney for you. Which isn't surprising as some people really married into defending him over the years.

[ncfan]

2 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

This is why I can’t take some of you seriously, Carter has a blocked punt for a td and a onside kick recovery, the only bright spot on ST’s

Thomas doesn’t see the field for god knows what reason.

You guys harp on gaulden like Daryl Worley’s, daeshon hall, a 3rd use to trade up for funchess, and turner, who’s been grossly overrated here is what our 3rd round picks were before hurney came back. This isn’t even a knock on DG, this is just to show how easily it is to miss on 3rd round picks but for some reason people wanna act like gaulden busting is the end of the world

the issue has always been Rivera  

Has it.

 

 

Its been the problem of a guy who will still be in this league in some form.  And not the guy that every NFL franchise outside of mint st laughed at the idea of.  Not the guy who only got a phone call for a job at the local radio station.  Not that guy.  Jeezus christ.  This fan base deserves every bit of this.

[Pimpdaddy]

2 hours ago, ncfan said:

No way this dude should be employed by Carolina anymore.  Jerry's buddy even the 2.0 version when Jerry brought him back has not worked.

There is a reason the dude didnt get a phone call from 31 other teams after being released the 1st time.

 

This OL isnt Gettleman's anymore.  This is all Hurneys.  Outside of Moton and Turner, every OL is Hurney's .

 

Paradis is like Kalil with Gman.  His old franchise made it clear they had concerns about his future and wouldnt try resigning him.  Then Hurney makes him the top priority.  Now we have a high priced Center who is the worst Center in the NFL.

Williams resigning was Hurney 

Pulling Van Roten from the CFL was Hurney

Trading up for Little and rumored possibly trying get him in the 1st.....was Hurney.  Despite every single scout (outside the panthers) and draft experts having Little late 2nd to 3rd rd guy.

...i said this back in 2010...this is not a revelation...

[ncfan]

1 minute ago, Krovvy said:

How many of Gettleman's first round picks, actually just picks in general, are going to be on the team next season?

Oh, and I guess this is more of a Gettleman thing than Hurney for you. Which isn't shocking as some people really married into defending him over the years.

Congrats.

 

The former #1 overall pick and another top 10 pick are still on the team past 3-4 seasons.

[Krovvy]

1 minute ago, ncfan said:

Congrats.

 

The former #1 overall pick and another top 10 pick are still on the team past 3-4 seasons.

Okay, so you're back to lying again.

So Gettleman, how many picks of his do you think are going to be on this team by next year?

[ncfan]

5 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

How many of Gettleman's first round picks, actually just picks in general, are going to be on the team next season?

Oh, and I guess this is more of a Gettleman thing than Hurney for you. Which isn't shocking as some people really married into defending him over the years.

How is this more of a Gettleman thing

I said I Dont want him here.  Just pointing out, as bad as he is.  People still thought he could hold a position in this league.  While no one wanted hurney.

 

 

Dont understand how you dont get this unless your related to marty or Jerry in some way

 

[Krovvy]

Just now, ncfan said:

How is this more of a Gettleman thing

I said I Dont want him here.  Just pointing out, as bad as he is.  People still thought he could hold a position in this league.  While no one wanted hurney.

 

 

Dont understand how you dont get this unless your related to marty or Jerry in some way

 

Because you keep bringing him up?