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[Mr. Scot]

FYI... 

 

[top dawg]

17 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Our pass blocking is one sack from worst in the NFL and has been among the historically worst. Allen has been sacked 44 times in 11 games. Cam was sacked 6 times in two games. That’s a pace of 62 sacks. That would be the 5th most sacks of a QB all time according to PFR. Here’s the link: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_sacked_single_season.htm

I’d say we have a historically bad pass blocking unit. Top 8 worst, yeah, in NFL history.

By the way Cam’s highest sack total was 43, in 2013 when Gross was still playing. Every other year has been in the 30s. We are on pace to give up 62 almost twice Cam’s average. Can we stop this meme that this OL as constructed is anything more than historically bad even though we injected an extra $15M and 3 draft picks into it?

Sometimes a QB plays a role in getting sacked---or not---as well.

[trueblade]

I can understand not wanting to put him out there against SEA, but IND and NO have pretty good defenses too. 

[LinvilleGorge]

This isn't a Seahawks team of old. They're the worst defense left on our schedule. They're #22 overall and #29 in sacks. They're honestly a pretty poor defense.

[bobowilson]

9 minutes ago, trueblade said:

I can understand not wanting to put him out there against SEA, but IND and NO have pretty good defenses too. 

Seattle has the 18th ranked defense in the NFL by DVOA

People have been thinking Seattle has some great defense because of their Superbowl runs half a decade ago, but those times have long passed, and almost none of those players are still around

Their strength is Russell Wilson, not much else

 

[bobowilson]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This isn't a Seahawks team of old. They're the worst defense left on our schedule. They're #22 overall and #29 in sacks. They're honestly a pretty poor defense.

Yep, it's interesting how a team acquires a 'brand' and people stick to it for a decade

A lot of people still think Carolina has a good defense

Remaining defenses by DVOA

Seattle  - 18

Ind - 14

New Orleans - 7

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This isn't a Seahawks team of old. They're the worst defense left on our schedule. They're #22 overall and #29 in sacks. They're honestly a pretty poor defense.

Their defense isn't what concerns me.

That they might break the record for the number of points scored against us does.

[Cavscout]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Their defense isn't what concerns me.

That they might break the record for the number of points scored against us does.

I agree, their offense is very good. Maybe their OC Brian Shottenheimer will go easy on us since his family lives in Charlotte.

[BrianS]

3 hours ago, The Natural said:

On one hand we know what we have in Allen and need to see with Grier but do we REALLY want to throw him out there given the circumstances? I don't think we'd get a fair assessment.

Doesn't the reverse also apply?  If you don't think that playing behind that line will give you a fair assessment of Grier, how is it giving you a fair assessment of Allen?  One the other hand, if you think Allen has been fairly assessed behind that line, then Grier would also receive a fair assessment.  It doesn't work both ways.

 

[bobowilson]

Not only does Seattle have a bad defense, they generate almost no pressure on QBs

It's ideal circumstance to put Grier now

No pass rush 

[LinvilleGorge]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Their defense isn't what concerns me.

That they might break the record for the number of points scored against us does.

I'm glad we faced the Niners when we did before they got Jimmy G really going. The current Niners could name their point total against us.

[Raskle]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

FYI... 

 

I'm thinking this is him busting a gut because he couldn't stop laughing at our defense. It's gotta be this, right??

[BrianS]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

FYI... 

 

All I can see when I look at that picture is:  Oh, there's Eric Reid getting beat in coverage again.

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, stbugs said:

Let’s not be disingenuous. Little gave up 14 pressure in one game. Beasley just ran into Allen with no resistance.

If you are trying to insinuate that the OL is playing well and it’s Allen running around taking sacks then it’s not worth discussing or you are just trolling.

Giving up a sack amount that would be top 5 in NFL history means the OL is terrible. Simple as that. Another way to think about it is that we are only 1 sack better than a team who released their C (Pouncey) and traded their LT to tank for picks and draft position. We on the other hand spent $15M in 2019 FA dollars and 3 draft picks and still have as bad an OL as Miami.

It’s mind boggling that I have to defend Allen from someone trying to act like it’s not an OL issue. Allen is 5-1 with 2 INTs when he’s been sacked 3 or fewer times. He’s 0-4 with 10 INTs when he’s been sacked 5 or more times. I’m not even saying Allen is great or can be great in the future but is damn obvious he plays better when he’s not getting blasted. Your 2 line post has no facts and is just a lazy drive by post when you know the OL is garbage and yes this time I’m actually saying it’s garbage. 

It's mind blowing that you're even defending Allen at all.