For Igo and everyone else putting Cam on another team next season

[WoahW]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

What part of acknowledging that he might be playing somewhere else next year is "attacking" him?

Newton has to do what's best for him. if that means going somewhere that's willing to pay him more or for longer than the Panthers, that's a perfectly valid decision.

Julius did it. Others have done it. Newton may do it too.

That's football. It happens.

I don’t think anyone who is saying he will be gone is attacking him that’s stupid to think that, but Newton doesn’t have the options Cam has. Teams haven’t seen him for almost 2 full years and if he attempts to hold out it will hurt his chances at teams giving him what he wants. 
 

Plus we really have no idea what Cam or Tepper wants. I’m guessing they both want at least one thing, to win...that we can say for a fact 

[mav1234]

11 minutes ago, firefox1234 said:

As he should. Its sad that our former MVP QB has to be defended so damned much. Even if its emotions running wild, we're FANS for god sake! We aren't paid to root for this kicker bucket franchise but do cause we love it. Its disgusting that guys here are looked down upon for wanting nothing but to see the best QB this franchise has ever had stay and be prosperous while folks pretend they are "ITKs" and general "know it all's" when in reality they have more pride than sense. 

Keep ruffling there feathers @WoahW!

Where did Igo or Roaring Riot attack Cam? 

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, WoahW said:

Scot stop beating around the bush. Which letter works for the team best? We don’t know Cam’s health this is based off the options we have. Which works the best for the team, healthy or not? Because if he’s not healthy then we aren’t getting poo from anybody and would most likely let him go via release if he has zero shot of being healthy to begin with 

I take all “insiders” with a grain of salt because at the end of the day none are fully connected to the people running the show, and things change infinitely before decisions get made. 

Still missing the point...

One, we don't know whether he's ever going to be healthy again or not. If we knew that, we could decide whether it would be good to keep him or not. Unfortunately, we have to make that decision without knowing, which means it's a huge gamble.

And again, it's not like this is the only choice that Newton has. If it's better for him to play somewhere else, why shouldn't he?

[Jeremy Igo]

3 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Where did Igo or Roaring Riot attack Cam? 

We never have. But hey, it makes people feel good to defend him against imaginary attacks.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, firefox1234 said:

My beef is with the general atmosphere of this place since Cam has gotten injury prone. I know the NFL if not sports in general is very cutthroat but damn! The lukewarm(at best) atmosphere about the best QB this franchise has ever had by setting the bar at heights we may not see for a while is very displeasing.

I remember thinking back in 2015 that we had just watched the first year of what was going to be a long, dominant run. I was pretty excited about what the future held.

Didn't happen, and sucks that it didn't.

It's also possible that Newton hasn't been handled properly (I might go as far to say is it's likely) but even if you acknowledge that, what can you do? We can't go back and change anything that happened oh, so we just have to deal with what is.

I learned a long time ago not to get too emotional about these things because they happen pretty much every year.

That's just the nature of the business. Might sound cynical, but it's true.

[WoahW]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Still missing the point...

One, we don't know whether he's ever going to be healthy again or not. If we knew that, we could decide whether it would be good to keep him or not. Unfortunately, we have to make that decision without knowing, which means it's a huge gamble.

And again, it's not like this is the only choice that Newton has. If it's better for him to play somewhere else, why shouldn't he?

We don’t know if CMC will be healthy after next game. You’re trying to play hypotheticals which you can’t do. We have to take it one step at a time. Which means can he do anything for the team next year? Anyway we play it will be a gamble, what if we let him go and he lights it the fug up? We’ve just set our franchise back for how long? Which is why Tepper probably is mulling it until the very last second 

It doesn’t matter what Cam wants, you keep saying that but he isn’t like Melvin Gordon or even Peppers, having been injured for two years teams will need to see something to want him, and it doesn’t sound like he’ll be ready before the draft to do anything to make teams want him. Plus Tepper can say “that’s nice but you got one year left” 

[WoahW]

1 minute ago, Jeremy Igo said:

We never have. But hey, it makes people feel good to defend him against imaginary attacks.

I’m not sure why the guy would act like you or anyone else was attacking him...very strange 

[jfra78]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Still missing the point...

One, we don't know whether he's ever going to be healthy again or not. If we knew that, we could decide whether it would be good to keep him or not. Unfortunately, we have to make that decision without knowing, which means it's a huge gamble.

And again, it's not like this is the only choice that Newton has. If it's better for him to play somewhere else, why shouldn't he?

We dont have to make a decision before seeing if he is healthy.  We can let him play out the last season if his contract

[LinvilleGorge]

7 hours ago, mjligon said:

Folks are going to read into this what they want. 

Well, this take certainly proved to be prophetic.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, WoahW said:

I don’t think anyone who is saying he will be gone is attacking him that’s stupid to think that, but Newton doesn’t have the options Cam has. Teams haven’t seen him for almost 2 full years and if he attempts to hold out it will hurt his chances at teams giving him what he wants. 

Plus we really have no idea what Cam or Tepper wants. I’m guessing they both want at least one thing, to win...that we can say for a fact 

And I'm sure it's nice to think that they'll all sit around and sing kum bah ya together and resolve to make the Panthers the best they can be.

But here's the thing...

Cam Newton doesn't exist for the purpose of helping the Panthers. He exists to take care of himself and his family, same as every other player in the league.

The Panthers don't exist for the purpose of giving Cam Newton a platform. Their purpose is to build winning football teams, and they have to do so within certain real-world parameters, like the salary cap.

For a long time, the Panthers' purposes and Newton's purposes meshed well together, but now they might not anymore. Again, it happens.

And if they split, it won't be because either side was the bad guy.

For all the rah rah, go team stuff fans can muster, it's still a  business. And that's not going to change anytime soon...

...or ever.

[firefox1234]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I remember thinking back in 2015 that we had just watched the first year of what was going to be a long, dominant run. I was pretty excited about what the future held.

Didn't happen, and sucks that it didn't.

It's also possible that Newton hasn't been handled properly (I might go as far to say is it's likely) but even if you acknowledge that, what can you do? We can't go back and change anything that happened oh, so we just have to deal with what is.

I learned a long time ago not to get too emotional about these things because they happen pretty much every year.

That's just the nature of the business. Might sound cynical, but it's true.

 

6 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Where did Igo or Roaring Riot attack Cam? 

Its not you guys in particular but as I said just the general lukewarm atmosphere I am annoyed with on top of a handful(or maybe more)of folks with a clear and sinister agenda. Igo or Mr. Scot are hardly the ones I have complaints for.

[Yaboychris28]

Why delay the inevitable? I’d rather move on from Cam this offseason and start the rebuilding process as soon as possible.
 

No one should stay in a relationship that has already reached its peak, hoping it can get back to where it was. Most likely it never will. Same with Cam. 

Move on 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

We dont have to make a decision before seeing if he is healthy.  We can let him play out the last season if his contract

That, in itself, is a decision.

And if you think Newton has no choice but to accept that decision if he doesn't want to, think again.

 

[WoahW]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

And I'm sure it's nice to think that they'll all sit around and sing kum bah ya together and resolve to make the Panthers the best they can be.

But here's the thing...

Cam Newton doesn't exist for the purpose of helping the Panthers. He exists to take care of himself and his family, same as every other player in the league.

The Panthers don't exist for the purpose of giving Cam Newton a platform. Their purpose is to build winning football teams, and they have to do so within certain real-world parameters, like the salary cap.

For a long time, the Panthers' purposes and Newton's purposes meshed well together, but now they might not anymore. Again, it happens.

And if they split, it won't be because either side was the bad guy.

For all the rah rah, go team stuff fans can muster, it's still a  business. And that's not going to change anytime soon...

...or ever.

And who holds the contract? Cam or Tepper? Which one can say you can’t do poo unless I say? Tepper or Cam...