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Season is over, let's talk about some prospects!


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1 minute ago, Shocker said:

 No, wrong you are full of shet and think people cant see right through you.  Sorry pal.

Maybe he proves me wrong. It's very possible. Projecting college players to the NFL is a very inexact science and highly paid professional talent evaluators get it wrong every year and that's why there are always busts and steals in every draft.

Meanwhile, people like you just watch Mel Kiper and/or Todd McShay and take it all as gospel. All of these prospects are future All-Pros and are "plug and play" solutions that will fill blank role for whatever team "for the next decade".

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Just now, Bostonheelfish said:

Would you trade two future first and second round picks (keeping this years 1st and 2nd) to get an additional early first round pick to get Chase Young?  A talent that good can do wonders for your franchise in the long run, and our defense needs a superstar infusion now to stop the bleeding.

Hell no. Granted, the guy looks like an absolute monster and perfect DE prospect, but we'll still be getting the ball crammed down our throats and our QB best to hell behind this OL. I think you only make a move like that for A) a guy you're 100% sold on being an elite franchise QB or B) a guy who you think is a missing piece for a SB contending roster.

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3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Maybe he proves me wrong. It's very possible. Projecting college players to the NFL is a very inexact science and highly paid professional talent evaluators get it wrong every year and that's why there are always busts and steals in every draft.

Meanwhile, people like you just watch Mel Kiper and/or Todd McShay and take it all as gospel. All of these prospects are future All-Pros and are "plug and play" solutions that will fill blank role for whatever team "for the next decade".

I’m with you 100% on Herbert. I watched several of his games this season, and came away extremely unimpressed (and I really, really wanted to like him).

He very much is a one read quarterback, and he absolutely wilts under pressure. He’s not somebody you want to rely on in big situations.

While he has all the physical attributes you could dream of, he doesn’t have the mental make-up to ever reach his potential, IMO. 
 

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11 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Thanks, Verge.

What would you say about comparing Herbert to Brett Favre? That's the name that comes to my mind based on your description.

Not as much of a gunslinger, has much better footwork than Favre had (not that he really needed it), and is a mild personality.

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11 hours ago, Jared Patterson said:

Verge. Very curious to see your safety rankings. Where do you have:

Grant Delpit, Ashtyn Davis, Richard LeCounte III, Brandon Jones, Jeremy Chinn, Hamsah Nasirildeen, Xavier McKinney, and possibly Winfield (if he comes out) 

In order? Because I think it is finally the year we take a safety in the first or second round

 

I haven't been able to focus in on a whole ton of safeties yet, but I will definitely get to it. I think Delpit is better than Adams was coming out, and that is saying something. 

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10 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

Jerry Jeudy is way more Chad Johnson than Steve Smith. Not sure what you’re seeing to draw that comparison.

I like that comparison a lot. I had a hard time thinking of one tbh, I just thought his yards after contact, route savvy, and his catching ability were similar to Steve.

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16 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

Excellent post and write up. But if we are considering qb which I dont think we should as of yesterday mcshay has Tua going 4 to the Fins and us at 9 passing on Herbert for Derrick Brown to replace Poe.  My Dream scenario would be some way we snag Jerry Jeudy. Elite level Wr. Rare prospect. I see him similar to OBJ

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I don't really trust McShay, he takes a while to catch up. We had Daniel Jones as a first for quite a while before he would even acknowledge it as a possibility, and this happens a lot with other players.

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