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Did the Patriots try to sabotage McDaniels?

Mr. Scot

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20 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Our due diligence got us Matt Paradis too.

I certainly hope this turns out to be a good decision, but I don't have a lot of trust in the people who made it.

Understood, but knowing that he has been highly sought after for the past two years gives me peace. 
 

Knowing that the Giants coveted him does the same. Knowing that McCarthy was out there for like a week or two after he interviewed with us makes it even better.

 

I for one have faith that this guy will get us back to where we need to be. We have a lot of talent here. Cam will stay (just a gut feeling)

Shoot, put Cam on the field this past year and we’re a playoff team. He’s starting off with so much more than he’s ever had his first year. I think we’ll be in great shape moving forward.

 

the CMC cap hit is gonna hurt though.....

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22 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Our due diligence got us Matt Paradis too.

I certainly hope this turns out to be a good decision, but I don't have a lot of trust in the people who made it.

C'mon Mr. Scot. Every Panthers fan hopes it's a good decision. You're trying to sit on the fence with what you feel is a plausible excuse if you don't see it working out as you like. Can't have it both ways. No toe dipping allowed. Don't be a pessimistic optimist or an optimistic pessimist, either one. 

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2 minutes ago, GRWatcher said:

C'mon Mr. Scot. Every Panthers fan hopes it's a good decision. You're trying to sit on the fence with what you feel is a plausible excuse if you don't see it working out as you like. Can't have it both ways. No toe dipping allowed. Don't be a pessimistic optimist or an optimistic pessimist, either one. 

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I'm a realist.

Football fans have a habit of celebrating perceived wins way too early and then crashing into the depths when they don't work out. That's fine for some, but it's not me.

I absolutely hope it's a good thing. But looking at the situation objectively, I don't know it.

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From the article...
 

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New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick refused to allow longtime offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels to move up his scheduled interviews with teams interested in him as a head coaching candidate to the start of this week, league sources said, at the same time he pushed special teams coordinator Joe Judge for the New York Giants' coaching vacancy and greenlit a Monday interview for him.

Belichick and owner Robert Kraft have long been worried about losing McDaniels, who has a very strong bond with Hall of Fame free agent quarterback Tom Brady and is one of the best play designers and play callers in football. Kraft and Belichick went to great lengths to persuade McDaniels not pull out of his agreement to become head coach of the Colts in 2017, as is well documented, and Belichick has a reputation for being difficult to work with when it comes to other teams looking to hire an assistant he does not want to lose.

 

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Despite New England being eliminated from the playoffs in the Wild Card round Saturday night, multiple sources from teams that had requested interviews with McDaniels said Belichick would not relent to move up their window to speak with McDaniels in the immediate days following that defeat. Brady's future is very much in limbo, with the 43-year old quarterback contemplating playing elsewhere in 2020, sources said, which would make retaining McDaniels even more paramount as there is no set replacement on staff and Brady has been in one offense his entire career.

At the same time, Belichick was advocating for Judge for the Giants job, knowing that they couldn't hire both him and McDaniels. The Browns, Giants, and Panthers all requested interviews with McDaniels at the conclusion of the regular season. Belichick would not allow McDaniels to meet the Panthers on Monday, the same day Judge was interviewing with the Giants; Baylor coach Matt Rhule met with the Panthers on Tuesday and was hired by Wednesday.

 

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The Panthers were extremely high on McDaniels, sources said, and had his interview been before Rhule's it is quite possible owner David Tepper would have acted to quickly hire him as well. That was not the case – McDaniels and Rhule are both represented by Athlete's First – and Rhule was hired by Tuesday with the Giants not wanting to risk losing Judge to Mississippi State or McDaniels to go elsewhere, they hired Judge within hours of the Panthers landing Rhule, whom New York sought to interview on Tuesday.

 

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

From the article...
At the same time, Belichick was advocating for Judge for the Giants job, knowing that they couldn't hire both him and McDaniels.

 

 

So, was Belichick actually advocating for Judge, or was he just throwing a sacrificial lamb at the Giants so he could keep McDaniels?  I've heard that while Judge did impress NY, Belichick's recommendation also carried a lot of weight.  

Were the Giants sold a bill of goods in another Bill Belichick power play?  Or is he the real deal?  It will be interesting to see if Judge was actually ready for the job, or if Bill just saw him as expendable so he can keep his golden goose.  

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26 minutes ago, Woodie said:

So, was Belichick actually advocating for Judge, or was he just throwing a sacrificial lamb at the Giants so he could keep McDaniels?  I've heard that while Judge did impress NY, Belichick's recommendation also carried a lot of weight.  

Were the Giants sold a bill of goods in another Bill Belichick power play?  Or is he the real deal?  It will be interesting to see if Judge was actually ready for the job, or if Bill just saw him as expendable so he can keep his golden goose.  

Yeah, it's not that Judge is necessarily a bad choice. He just isn't McDaniels.

And now there's heavy speculation the Browns will go with Stefanski or Saleh.

McDaniels might feel like a guy who's trying to escape the mafia.

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28 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, it's not that Judge is necessarily a bad choice. He just isn't McDaniels.

And now there's heavy speculation the Browns will go with Stefanski or Saleh.

McDaniels might feel like a guy who's trying to escape the mafia.

That sounds about right.  Either way, from what I have seen, I think we got the right guy.  So, whatever Belichick did or didn't do, I'm just glad we ended up with Rhule.

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11 minutes ago, Woodie said:

That sounds about right.  Either way, from what I have seen, I think we got the right guy.  So, whatever Belichick did or didn't do, I'm just glad we ended up with Rhule.

I hope we got the right guy.

I would just feel better if I knew that we explored all of our options before making the decision.

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