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“A great developer of talent...”(the best).

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I’m not in the draft/college world as much as some of y’all are.

Can anyone tell me in the past 10 years how many of Rhules players had been drafted and are still playing in the NFL?

So far I count 8-10, only 2 Baylor players and this draft class is not looking any better.

Thanks!

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Wow talk about a stretch argument.

Temple record 2-10, 6-6, 10-3

Baylor 1-11, 7-6, 11-3

These are 2 schools that make due with 3 star prospects and don’t have the Chase Youngs, Bosas, or the Tua’s lining up to play there.

Dion Dawkins gonna get paid (Rhule player)

Robby Anderson has said multiple times that Rhule is what kept him playing football and would probably not be where he is today without him.

He’s developed players to fit his program and not Saban or Dabo their talent (ie pay for it)

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10 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Wow talk about a stretch argument.

Temple record 2-10, 6-6, 10-3

Baylor 1-11, 7-6, 11-3

These are 2 schools that make due with 3 star prospects and don’t have the Chase Youngs, Bosas, or the Tua’s lining up to play there.

Dion Dawkins gonna get paid (Rhule player)

Robby Anderson has said multiple times that Rhule is what kept him playing football and would probably not be where he is today without him.

He’s developed players to fit his program and not Saban or Dabo their talent (ie pay for it)

So how many of rhules players have had success in the NFL? 

We already know he never beat a ranked team in college. 

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There’s another concept out there: acquire talent, work that talent into your scheme while also adapting your scheme around that talent. Talent development is still an important deal in the NFL. I think the team is working hard to sell this angle to help justify a reset. I’m not certain how translatable Rhule’s “program building” rep is at the pro level. I’m not ruling it out. I’m just a healthy skeptic.

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6 minutes ago, ellis said:

There’s another concept out there: acquire talent, work that talent into your scheme while also adapting your scheme around that talent. Talent development is still an important deal in the NFL. I think the team is working hard to sell this angle to help justify a reset. I’m not certain how translatable Rhule’s “program building” rep is at the pro level. I’m not ruling it out. I’m just a healthy skeptic.

Chip Kelly. You know my opinion. We’ve seen this before when it comes to “program”.

This is more about how has the collective NFL felt about his players being skilled, professional and ready for the NFL aka developed to an NFL level. According to the body that is the NFL.

2 players from Baylor. With 3 projected in late rounds on deck. That doesn’t really show “best”, “great” or even “good” developing of talent. 

It shows Tepper is banking on a college scheme to work in the NFL. He’s willing to take the risk. But are the fans? 

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1 minute ago, Harbingers said:

Chip Kelly. You know my opinion. We’ve seen this before when it comes to “program”.

This is more about how has the collective NFL felt about his players being skilled, professional and ready for the NFL aka developed to an NFL level. According to the body that is the NFL.

2 players from Baylor. With 3 projected in late rounds on deck. That doesn’t really show “best”, “great” or even “good” developing of talent. 

It shows Tepper is banking on a college scheme to work in the NFL. He’s willing to take the risk. But are the fans? 

Chip Kelly also had a more NFL-experienced coaching staff/front office in 2013 w/ Philly. I’m not anti-Matt. But I’m not 100% sold on the front office or staff right now. That doesn’t mean I won’t be wrong. It just feels a bit off to me. That’s all. 

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55 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Wow talk about a stretch argument.

Temple record 2-10, 6-6, 10-3

Baylor 1-11, 7-6, 11-3

These are 2 schools that make due with 3 star prospects and don’t have the Chase Youngs, Bosas, or the Tua’s lining up to play there.

Dion Dawkins gonna get paid (Rhule player)

Robby Anderson has said multiple times that Rhule is what kept him playing football and would probably not be where he is today without him.

He’s developed players to fit his program and not Saban or Dabo their talent (ie pay for it)

I agree. Give him the chance to actually get players on the same level and see how he does. Guys go to the big name schools because they want to get on the big time stage so they can get drafted. Turning schools with middle of the road and lesser talent from terrible records to solid winning records is an accomplishment.

Nobody has ever said my path to the NFL runs through Baylor or Temple.

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9 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I agree. Give him the chance to actually get players on the same level and see how he does. Guys go to the big name schools because they want to get on the big time stage so they can get drafted. Turning schools with middle of the road and lesser talent from terrible records to solid winning records is an accomplishment.

Nobody has ever said my path to the NFL runs through Baylor or Temple.

The go to big name schools because they know the program will be better. It will afford them more opportunities to prove themselves. It’s up to the players after the program what to do with themselves. So far not a lot of rhule people have done anything football-wise. 

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49 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

2 players from Baylor. With 3 projected in late rounds on deck. That doesn’t really show “best”, “great” or even “good” developing of talent.

It might not be an indicator of developing talent, but for me, it is an indicator of doing more with less. That's a very translatable skill imo. It shows an understanding of total team dynamics and utilizing your available pieces to greatest benefit.

Rhule may or may not pan out, but I agree that he's worth the risk given his track record. (at multiple spots)

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