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1 hour ago, Ja Rhule said:

340 corona cases in Mecklenburg county.  My family knows one of top doctors at Atrium and he told us to hold on to our butts.  April in Charlotte will be bad.  He said to buy food online only.

Yeah, you can only get tested if you are in the hospital and testing has ruled out everything else.  
 

Mild cases don’t get reported.

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7 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Yeah, you can only get tested if you are in the hospital and testing has ruled out everything else.  
 

Mild cases don’t get reported.

I assumed my whole family had corona 2 weeks ago.  They only tested my son and he got flu positive so they just said we all had flu and sent us home but whole family had every corona symptom.

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5 hours ago, stirs said:

The point I am making is that the hospitals are packed full of the "at risk" folks.  The social distancing does not work when grandparents spend all their time with family, even in groups under 10.  If the 65 and up and at risk folks were quarantined and not getting this virus, the rest of the country could most likely work and serve the at risk folks.  There might be people that are not at risk going to the hospital, but the system should be able to handle them, not unlike the flu each season.

Families would be impacted however by not being able to spend time with the elderly, might even seem cruel, but would not end up in a funeral.

You still social distance, AND you put out the testing for antibodies to know who has already had it.

The normal testing seems kind of stupid now.  If 50% of the people that had it didn't even know?  What about the ones getting tested and negative, do they come back every week until they finally test positive?  Just seems like it is good for building a database of where the outbreaks are, but not much in stopping it.

I see what you’re getting at but this would take a ton of prep time. Not all old people live by themselves and can take care of themselves. The deadly outbreaks in the Seattle retirement homes were started by employees and nurses bringing the virus in. 

Also, it’s worth noting that the U.K. was going to use a similar plan but realized the number of hospitalizations that would happen among the “non at risk group” would still overload their healthcare system. They went from “let the young work and get the virus” to “put the entire country in lockdown” in just a week or two. 
 

What should have happened was an earlier travel ban and a complete lockdown of those first few cities where the virus took hold. Unfortunately, that type of lockdown is unconstitutional at the moment. We might end up seeing the first constitutional amendment in a century when this is over.

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3 minutes ago, Ja Rhule said:

I assumed my whole family had corona 2 weeks ago.  They only tested my son and he got flu positive so they just said we all had flu and sent us home but whole family had every corona symptom.

Yeah, I work with two people who most likely had it weeks ago. They couldn’t get tested so they will never know. 

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2 minutes ago, Tbe said:

I see what you’re getting at but this would take a ton of prep time. Not all old people live by themselves and can take care of themselves. The deadly outbreaks in the Seattle retirement homes were started by employees and nurses bringing the virus in. 

Also, it’s worth noting that the U.K. was going to use a similar plan but realized the number of hospitalizations that would happen among the “non at risk group” would still overload their healthcare system. They went from “let the young work and get the virus” to “put the entire country in lockdown” in just a week or two. 
 

What should have happened was an earlier travel ban and a complete lockdown of those first few cities where the virus took hold. Unfortunately, that type of lockdown is unconstitutional at the moment. We might end up seeing the first constitutional amendment in a century when this is over.

Agreed, cat's out of the bag now, so we will watch and wait and hope.

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People recovered from the virus could hold a lot of keys

The plasma is already being used to help sick victims.  Another reason that I'd love to see he test implemented in a hurry which shows if you have already had the virus.

Blood drives could be more important very soon.

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11 hours ago, Cam's New Arm said:

I think people are still in shock over this. If that 20something million in China is anything then this is way different.
I would assume that would have to be some other thing mixed into this. Like a crackdown on some hacking ring or something lol

Doesnt fall in line with the numbers we've seen elsewhere...  that 21 million likely has something to do with political issues there...  well, that would be my guess.

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Looks like we have been vulnerable for vent shortages for quite a while

Again, unless you actually have run into something like this, then most people will not stockpile for things that might never happen.  Can't really blame the people through the years.  But from now one, I expect there will be stockpiling of all sorts of things.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-agencies-warned-of-ventilator-shortages-for-nearly-two-decades

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12 minutes ago, stirs said:

Looks like we have been vulnerable for vent shortages for quite a while

Again, unless you actually have run into something like this, then most people will not stockpile for things that might never happen.  Can't really blame the people through the years.  But from now one, I expect there will be stockpiling of all sorts of things.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-agencies-warned-of-ventilator-shortages-for-nearly-two-decades

"When we started buying ventilators, they were under $20,000. The ventilators are over $50,000 if you can find them. The ventilators didn't change that much in two weeks," Cuomo said.”

Too bad the bankruptcy king didn’t put a cap on pricing. 

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34 minutes ago, stirs said:

Looks like we have been vulnerable for vent shortages for quite a while

Again, unless you actually have run into something like this, then most people will not stockpile for things that might never happen.  Can't really blame the people through the years.  But from now one, I expect there will be stockpiling of all sorts of things.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-agencies-warned-of-ventilator-shortages-for-nearly-two-decades

We started stockpiling medical supplies in 1999.  The question is not about if we will do it (we already are), but how many of each item that we should keep on hand and how it should be distributed once something hits.  Various states have large stockpiles as well.  California has an array of stashed items, for instance, including 21M N95 masks.

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