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17 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Bridgewater has extremely high sack rate statistics. His career sack rate is 8.3%(6.0% at the Saints who had an excellent line).

Drew Brees career sack rate is 3.9%(3.6% with the Saints). 

Cam's career sack percentage behind an atrocious OL? 6.8%

Teddy is very poor at avoiding hits.

That scares the heck out of me considering.

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*Official Herbert Bandwagon Member*

I think Marty is all in on this one. Expect trade up more than a trade down. As much as the Panthers need a future at QB Love and Tua need heavy consideration.

Herbert could go as early as #2. He is almost in the mold of Cam. Size, athleticism, cannon.

Get him Marty!

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On 3/30/2020 at 10:18 PM, FakePlasticTrees said:

The Panthers should have been in the market for a QB. Unfortunately, the signing of Bridgewater likely means the QB position is ignored this year. Furthermore, it means that at least one year is added to any reasonable chance of real competitiveness for the Panthers. That will not come with Bridgewater.

IMHO, the signing of Bridgewater was absolutely the dumbest thing the Panthers could have done this off season. He is a weak-armed QB who will, at best, be a game manager. The most TDs he has ever thrown is 14 and his wins tend to require his defensive unit to hold teams below 20 points (not likely with this team).

Clearly, those in the Panthers' brain-trust (Hurney) that believed only a retooling was needed won the day. This team was in need of a complete rebuild. I would go so far as to say it is currently the least talented team in the NFL. This is not an environment where a QB like Bridgewater can thrive. What a waste.

I hope I am wrong. I hope Bridgewater has a greatness that has never been manifest and/or the Panthers draft a franchise QB this year. If I am honest, I think both are pipe dreams at this point. 

 

Your issue here is that should any high ranking team exec see your post they'll reflexively respond with "sure the team around him isn't great, but we said this will be a process, were building, we believe that with the right pieces, Bridgewater is a guy who can come in and win some games for us."

 

And that's the issue as a whole. The teams entire ethos is flawed, and we've got to sit around and wait for them to realize it, and that's where all the disdain and apathy you're seeing from the fanbase comes from.

In an era of football that mandates having an elite Quarterback (and really not much else) to consistently compete for super bowls, we have watched the team talking themselves into pedestrian play because they no doubt want to "build around the QB" and "with the right pieces, the is a guy who isn't gonna lose games for you."

The team's exclusive focus this off season should've been acquiring an elite, top tier, QB prospect. Nothing else really matters beyond that. Instead we get to watch another era of run the ball stop the run, trenches, hog mollies gusto as we coast to 6-10 this season and out of range of any replacement franchise QB, and frankly that's probably the worst part. Chances to acquire one don't come around very often, and were about to watch the team pass it by.

 

 

Maybe they're playing us all and it's all a big smokescreen. But that's a lot of credit to a collective that hasn't earned it.

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2 hours ago, Growl said:

Your issue here is that should any high ranking team exec see your post they'll reflexively respond with "sure the team around him isn't great, but we said this will be a process, were building, we believe that with the right pieces, Bridgewater is a guy who can come in and win some games for us."

 

And that's the issue as a whole. The teams entire ethos is flawed, and we've got to sit around and wait for them to realize it, and that's where all the disdain and apathy you're seeing from the fanbase comes from.

In an era of football that mandates having an elite Quarterback (and really not much else) to consistently compete for super bowls, we have watched the team talking themselves into pedestrian play because they no doubt want to "build around the QB" and "with the right pieces, the is a guy who isn't gonna lose games for you."

The team's exclusive focus this off season should've been acquiring an elite, top tier, QB prospect. Nothing else really matters beyond that. Instead we get to watch another era of run the ball stop the run, trenches, hog mollies gusto as we coast to 6-10 this season and out of range of any replacement franchise QB, and frankly that's probably the worst part. Chances to acquire one don't come around very often, and were about to watch the team pass it by.

 

 

Maybe they're playing us all and it's all a big smokescreen. But that's a lot of credit to a collective that hasn't earned it.

Very well put.

The only way I can get on board with the signing of Bidgewater (a “veteran” QB) will be if we draft a QB in this upcoming draft.

A guy like Jordan Love who has all the tools to be special but needs a year of learning behind a veteran would make this signing make sense. 

If that happens then it’s ok that we trade a few wins this season for draft position. We’ll have our guy and hopefully some of those wins help with Jordan’s development. 

Jordan’s game against Fresno State is a good one to watch. A couple throws he shouldn’t have made but also makes a ton of Sunday throws

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I have faith. 

Get on board folks, plenty of room for those who can see the incredible potential Rhule's Rules possess and choose to be optimistic as such.

Our players are gonna play up and Big Time Teddy is going to lead the charge.  They probably should have locked him up for longer.

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