Austin Ekeler's extension was for four years, 24 million, and he had 1000 receiving yards

[bobowilson]

There's been a lot talked about how CMC is also a wide receiver, and that running back salaries should not be applicable to him.

Austin Ekeler had 993 receiving yards last year, on a lot less targets, and playing much less snaps than CMC.  By any metric, he was a more productive and more efficient wide receiver out of the RB position

As for comparing them for strictly running, Ekeler had to split carries with Gordon, but had an identical PFF rating as a rusher per attempt.

So what is the rationale for why CMC should be paid so much more than Ekeler's new modest contract?

The same argument about how CMC can be a slot receiver when he gets older should be applicable to Ekeler.

 

 

[Borat]

Being able to be equally productive over a larger sample is worth a lot of $$$. CMC’s per usage metrics would be even better were he splitting time.

A decent relief pitcher has a much lower ERA than a starter of his same relative quality, but we know who makes the big bucks of the two. 

[Mage]

Is this a joke?

[Mage]

Austin Ekeler in his first 3 years: 1371 rushing yards (4.8 YPC), 1676 receiving yards, 22 total TDs

Christian McCaffrey in 2019: 1387 rushing yards (4.8 YPC), 1005 receiving yards, 19 total TDs

And you really made a thread asking why McCaffrey got paid a lot more?

Really?

[bobowilson]

Just now, Mage said:

Is this a joke?

You don't watch Chargers games and neither do 95% of the fans here.  CMC is the flashier name, had a famous father and had the glorified college career, so people have a cognitive bias when comparing the two.

All analytics guys liked Ekeler above CMC last year.

It's absurd we'd pay CMC 10 million more a year than Ekeler, but Hurney is going to Hurney.

 

[bobowilson]

Just now, Mage said:

Austin Ekeler in his first 3 years: 1371 rushing yards (4.8 YPC), 1676 receiving yards, 22 total TDs

Christian McCaffrey in 2019: 1387 rushing yards (4.8 YPC), 1005 receiving yards, 19 total TDs

And you really made a thread asking why McCaffrey got paid a lot more?

Really?

Silly to compare 3 years when Ekeler was an undrafted guy who never got an opportunity to play until last year.

Last year, when Ekeler actually got his chance, he outperformed CMC as a wide receiver.

 

[BrianS]

First off, let's not mistake Austin Ekeler for CMC.  He's not.  He's a nice piece, absolutely, but he ain't no CMC.

Secondly, though they've been in the league the same number of total years, CMC has nearly TWICE the scrimmage yards as Ekeler.

What you've got in Ekeler is your traditional third down receiving back, and a pretty good one.  What you've got in CMC is a once in a lifetime swiss army knife.  A HoF player entering his prime.

[Mage]

Just now, bobowilson said:

You don't watch Chargers games and neither do 95% of the fans here.  CMC is the flashier name, had a famous father and had the glorified college career, so people have a cognitive bias when comparing the two.

All analytics guys liked Ekeler above CMC last year.

It's absurd we'd pay CMC 10 million more a year than Ekeler, but Hurney is going to Hurney.

 

McCaffrey is clearly better than Ekeler.  By a lot.  

And "all the analytics guys"?  By that, do you just mean ProFootballFocus?  

There is a reason Ekeler isn't a full-time back.  Of course he's more efficient coming in to split-time, but he isn't capable of being an every-down back.  That is why the Chargers gave up on it after the first 4 games last year, when Ekeler had 56 carries for only 220 rushing yards at 3.93 YPC.

But sure, stick with your "analytics."  CMC is far better than Ekeler, this is such a joke of a thread.  

[Daddy_Uncle]

Good lord. 

[bobowilson]

3 minutes ago, BrianS said:

First off, let's not mistake Austin Ekeler for CMC.  He's not.  He's a nice piece, absolutely, but he ain't no CMC.

Secondly, though they've been in the league the same number of total years, CMC has nearly TWICE the scrimmage yards as Ekeler.

What you've got in Ekeler is your traditional third down receiving back, and a pretty good one.  What you've got in CMC is a once in a lifetime swiss army knife.  A HoF player entering his prime.

The entire argument is that we should pay CMC double his worth because he's a wide receiver as well as a running back.

Why didn't the Chargers apply this same logic to Ekeler, who is actually a better wide receiver than CMC?

Seems like Ekeler got paid like a running back despite his 1000 receiving yards.

 

[cardiaccat52]

This comparison and focus on the analytics is short sighted. If your making your argument based on a single year and stats alone, that's like saying DeVante Parker is on the same level as Julio Jones.

 

[bobowilson]

14 minutes ago, Mage said:

 

And "all the analytics guys"?  By that, do you just mean ProFootballFocus?  

 

 

[45catfan]

Is CMC on par with Zeke?  If so, then his contract is not over-priced.  

Another way to look at this is top contract values always increase annually.  So in two years, if CMC still is playing at this level, what do you think his contract would be worth then?  I can guarantee you, higher that $16 million a year.  Lock him down now while he's young, healthy and productive, not in couple years with more mileage.  

[cardiaccat52]

11 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Seems like Ekeler got paid like a running back despite his 1000 receiving yards.

Ekeler got paid that because that is his worth, regardless of how the Chargers intend to use him.