Derrick Brown, massive top-10 bust

[BrizzMachete]

31 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It's like the typical modern definition of bias. When someone uses it they mean, "This didn't tell me exactly what I wanted to hear!"

Nah but thanks for speaking for me 

[BrizzMachete]

33 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Biased?   Do tell 

You have eyes use them don’t base it off of my opinion . 

[Panthercougar68]

2 minutes ago, BrizzMachete said:

Stats of the opposing team not him . Isn’t it his job (generally speaking) to stop scores and halt the run game ? 

Josh Jacobs and his line just bullied the Saints vaunted defense.

Last week at Tampa that Fournette run Derrick took on the double team (which he's getting a lot of) to only be let down by the linebackers.

[Jon Snow]

5 hours ago, BrizzMachete said:

Stats of the opposing team not him . Isn’t it his job (generally speaking) to stop scores and halt the run game ? 
i literally said i don’t care about stats when it comes to dt . You read  into it too hard to make a point . He sucking ass rn wether you like it or not bud 

He's not supposed to do it alone.  He needs 10 other guys doing their job well enough for him to be effective.   Your stats are misleading.

[BrizzMachete]

Just now, Panthercougar68 said:

Josh Jacobs and his line just bullied the Saints vaunted defense.

Last week at Tampa that Fournette run Derrick took on the double team (which he's getting a lot of) to only be let down by the linebackers.

I love the raiders line and i agree our linebackers are trash . I just want him to make a impact he a top ten pick . I just wanna see some sort of  upside i haven’t seen any honestly  . I just feel like we took the ultimate safe route by taking him 

[BrizzMachete]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

He's not supposed to do it alone.  He needs 10 other guys doing their job well enough for him to be effective.   You're stats are misleading.

Do you not know what generally speaking mean ? 
like you really think I’m  sitting here wanting him to take on the whole offense by himself . Like seriously ? Lol 

[Panthercougar68]

1 minute ago, BrizzMachete said:

I love the raiders line and i agree our linebackers are trash . I just want him to make a impact he a top ten pick . I just wanna see some sort of  upside i haven’t seen any honestly  . I just feel like we took the ultimate safe route by taking him 

He's not gonna be an Aaron Donald right away, that's why there is only one Aaron Donald. He's a powerful dude that still has learning to do just like Star did when he came into the league. 

[pantherj]

This may be b.s but at the time I read that we were trying to trade down from our pick and that no other teams were interested. Brown is a run stuffer, not some sort of Kris Jenkins sack machine. Brown can't get push on big o-linemen, see the Alabama game. Couldn't move that 345 pound o-lineman an inch. Brown is here to stop the run, and it's to soon to decide if he can do that.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Panthercougar68 said:

He's not gonna be an Aaron Donald right away, that's why there is only one Aaron Donald. He's a powerful dude that still has learning to do just like Star did when he came into the league. 

Yeah, Star didn't exactly blow the doors off everyone in year one. And that was with a waaay better DL around him. 

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

PFF were not fans of Derrick Brown during the draft process, they're just patting themselves on the back after a poor 2 first career games. 

Yeah, but are they the ones calling him a bust (a "massive top-10 bust")?

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[TheSpecialJuan]

3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Yeah, but are they the ones calling him a bust (a "massive top-10 bust")?

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[Proudiddy]

1 hour ago, Carl Spackler said:

Simmons isn’t exactly All-Pro material so far either. 

I know.  But, in my mind, nothing is worse than a first round lineman who can't do his job.  You can at least find a way to halfway utilize other positions, i mean, look at shaq lol.

[BrizzMachete]

22 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

He's not gonna be an Aaron Donald right away, that's why there is only one Aaron Donald. He's a powerful dude that still has learning to do just like Star did when he came into the league. 

Exactly I’m  grading him on a Star L Scale not the Aaron Donald scale . Way different type of  d tackles . Even then rn he not living up to star and that’s my problem . Clog that line that’s all i want . Nobody should run on us . Look at Vita Vea for the bucs that’s what i want 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, BrizzMachete said:

Exactly I’m  grading him on a Star L Scale not the Aaron Donald scale . Way different type of  d tackles . Even then rn he not living up to star and that’s my problem . Clog that line that’s all i want . Nobody should run on us . Look at Vita Vea for the bucs that’s what i want 

Yeah, we do need him to be Vita Vea. Right now he isn't but it's a long season. No reason to freak out. Especially since this is going to be such a terrible year for us. Just chill and evaluate.