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You need to start wondering what you'd give up to get Lawrence

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Just now, Rags said:

Where did I say that in my post?

Do you think Eli was the sole reason for those rings? Do you think if that D-line was switched with the pats in either of those games he'd get those rings still?

In at least the 2nd ring the Giants were a wild card team.

I know this dude. But, without him doing what he did they don't win those SB's. Sure, they had some D-Line talent. Well, a solid D-Line for the first one at least with Tuck and Strahan. But saying he wasn't one of the main reasons, is just wild. He was the SB MVP both times. 

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21 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Actually they might be better fans than you. They want future consistent success, while you’re thinking about winning meaningless games in a rebuilding year with a team that won’t win a damn thing. 

Future consistent success?  How many # 1 picks have provided that?  Hell Cam didn’t. 

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22 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

Fans who hate mediocrity... If that makes you not a true fan then what does rooting for the Patriots make you?

You didn’t answer my question.  So tanking for one player guarantees success?  We drafted Cam # 1.  Did that ensure consistent success?  Nope!  I’m a Panthers fan regardless.  You, on the other hand, who is pissed off at our win today is not 

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2 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Off the top of my head, John Elway, Payton Manning, Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw. Where would you rather pick a QB? That's my question. Because that's four HOFers right there. 

Lol.  dude come on.  Yet the best QB of all time was a 7th round pick?  And the biggest bust of all time was a #1?  And the second biggest bust of all time was also a #1?  

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9 minutes ago, Rags said:

Where did I say that in my post?

Do you think Eli was the sole reason for those rings? Do you think if that D-line was switched with the pats in either of those games he'd get those rings still?

In at least the 2nd ring the Giants were a wild card team.

I'd take a good competitive team and I know you need more than even an Elite QB for that.b

They won in 2007 as a 10-6 wildcard and in 2011 as a 9-7 division champion.

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6 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

I know this dude. But, without him doing what he did they don't win those SB's. Sure, they had some D-Line talent. Well, a solid D-Line for the first one at least with Tuck and Strahan. But saying he wasn't one of the main reasons, is just wild. He was the SB MVP both times. 

Having two miracle plays bail them out is something only Eli could do?

I'm not taking credit from Eli but you can easily argue that any competent QB could've won that game with that team.

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