Leniency of Holding calls

[WarHeel]

Casually watching the game today I couldn’t help  but notice how often we were pressuring Murray. They were several instances (at least 3-4) where I noticed blatant holding where the likelihood of us getting a sack at minimum would have been inevitable. I understand the league has really toned down the frequency of this specific call as to increase scoring opportunities and speed up the game but I wanted to gauge the Huddle and see how you guys feel about how the game was called today specifically regarding offensive holding and how you feel overall about the new standard this year. 
 

I personally think it detracts from the skill of our front 4 and takes away a little excitement on the defensive side but that’s just my opinion. 
 

What say ye?

[jerrya]

Unless it's egregious or has a major effect on the play, I don't mind letting the ticky-tack calls go.

[WarHeel]

1 minute ago, jerrya said:

Unless it's egregious or has a major effect on the play, I don't mind letting the ticky-tack calls go.

I am less concerned with the ticky takck. It’s the blatant stuff I’m referring to.

[1of10Charnatives]

I mean, the Patriots have been getting away with it game in and game out for *looks at watch* about 18 years now, so why not make the playing field level and let it go a little? I don't feel we got the short end of the stick holding wise, and as long as that continues to be the case I'm okay with the relaxed approach to a degree.

[RenoCarolina]

Are we really mad about the patriots getting away with holding for 18 years?

Or are we mad our OL coaches have not been good enough to teach their guys how far to push it?

As long as they are letting it go on both sides, and are consistent crew to crew and week to week, I don't see it as a problem.  But since I don't think either of those things will happen I gave OP pie.

 

[4Corners]

2 minutes ago, RenoCarolina said:

Are we really mad about the patriots getting away with holding for 18 years?

Or are we mad our OL coaches have not been good enough to teach their guys how far to push it?

As long as they are letting it go on both sides, and are consistent crew to crew and week to week, I don't see it as a problem.  But since I don't think either of those things will happen I gave OP pie.

 

That’s all you can really ask for. As a fan, player, coach, etc. consistency. Unfortunately we see it all the time, refs can directly influence the outcomes of games. They know who is supposed to win. 

[WarHeel]

8 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

That’s all you can really ask for. As a fan, player, coach, etc. consistency. Unfortunately we see it all the time, refs can directly influence the outcomes of games. They know who is supposed to win. 

[beo]

20 minutes ago, RenoCarolina said:

Are we really mad about the patriots getting away with holding for 18 years?

Or are we mad our OL coaches have not been good enough to teach their guys how far to push it?

As long as they are letting it go on both sides, and are consistent crew to crew and week to week, I don't see it as a problem.  But since I don't think either of those things will happen I gave OP pie.

 

This is something that I find often goes unnoticed in regard to teams "not getting holding calls"; it's not that the refs love those teams per se, it's that those teams have great OL coaches that teach their guys just how far they can push it without getting called. The Patriots and Packers have been masters of this for years, and there are other teams that do this well (though not quite to the same success) too like NO.

[1of10Charnatives]

1 hour ago, RenoCarolina said:

Are we really mad about the patriots getting away with holding for 18 years?

Or are we mad our OL coaches have not been good enough to teach their guys how far to push it?

As long as they are letting it go on both sides, and are consistent crew to crew and week to week, I don't see it as a problem.  But since I don't think either of those things will happen I gave OP pie.

 

Officials have consistently let Patriots OL get away with murder that was not allowed for other offensive linemen elsewhere in the league over a very long period of time. That playing field hasn't been level since Brady's ascendency and I'm sure has nothing to do with Goodell being butt buddies with Kraft.

*eyeroll*

You want proof?

Look at the consistency with which OL free agents from New England immediately look like dog poo when they go elsewhere. I'm sure it's just because they forget all the great coaching techniques they were taught there....

That isn't to say I think our OL coaching has been great in the past, just that it's pretty obvious New England has been held to an entirely different standard than the rest of the league for a long long time. 

[Madwolf]

I was a little annoyed with it today, given how many penalties we got called for. There was one particular play that stood out as really egregious, and it was a run or scramble to the right by Arizona and there was not 1, not 2, but 3 blatant holding calls missed to spring the runner.

That was the only time it really bothered me.

[4Corners]

2 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

I was a little annoyed with it today, given how many penalties we got called for. There was one particular play that stood out as really egregious, and it was a run or scramble to the right by Arizona and there was not 1, not 2, but 3 blatant holding calls missed to spring the runner.

That was the only time it really bothered me.

That PI on Jackson in the EZ was bullshit.