If you were in Moton's shoes...

[Mage]

Moton is not turning down a long term contract just so he can experiment at LT on another team lol

That’s the answer

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, Mage said:

Okay... how does that change what I said?

What if we put Moton at LT and he fails? Now you just created a hole at RT and for what?

Moton has been RT his entire career. This is a new coaching staff too, obviously they prefer him at RT. And in todays league you need both tackles to be good. 

 

Because we already have a hole at left tackle.

The guy who plays well there can't stay healthy and his backup is terrible.

If you switch Moton, you put Okung at right tackle if he's healthy and if not Trent Scott.

[Untouchable]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

We know what the Panthers want, but we can't say what Moton wants. And the only thing you're going to get him to say at this point is that he'll play wherever the team needs him to while his agent handles the other stuff.

You also have to figure that if the Panthers don't give him a good enough commitment, his agent will most certainly look to sell other teams on the idea that he can play left.

Regardless, given that we don't know Moton's preference, that's why the question is phrased as "what would you do in his place?"

Do you want to get paid as average or All-Pro? I promise you his agent has an easy job. Great OTs are so rare, it doesn't matter what side of the line you play on, you're getting paid paid. Lane Johnson got 18 mil/year, the highest ever for a offensive lineman at that time, as a RT.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

Do you want to get paid as average or All-Pro? I promise you his agent has an easy job. Great OTs are so rare, it doesn't matter what side of the line you play on, you're getting paid paid. Lane Johnson got 18 mil/year, the highest ever for a offensive lineman at that time, as a RT.

An agent who doesn't do everything he can to get him the highest salary possible isn't doing his job.

[Untouchable]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

An agent who doesn't do everything he can to get him the highest salary possible isn't doing his job.

You're ignoring the point.

[Smohn Jith]

If I'm Moton, I'm telling my agent to keep an eye out for Miami and their new Left handed Quarterback of the future.

[Mage]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Because we already have a hole at left tackle.

The guy who plays well there can't stay healthy and his backup is terrible.

If you switch Moton, you put Okung at right tackle if he's healthy and if not Trent Scott.

Dude, this isn't Madden.  You can't just switch players positions and call it a day.  When has Russell Okung ever played RT?  He would likely underperform, just like Moton would likely underperform at LT (versus how good he is at RT).

You are literally suggesting we take our best RT and best LT and have them switch "just to see how Moton will look at LT."  

Look around the league.  There is a reason why right side guys almost always stay right side and left side guys almost always stay left side.  Yes, there are exceptions.  But when you have played on one side for so long, it isn't just easy or simple to switch.  

It just doesn't make any sense for the Panthers to do this.  And I don't know why it's so hard for you to accept that Moton is just better at RT.  His coaches in college kept him at RT.  The first coaching staff here kept him at RT.  The new coaching staff here kept him at RT.  There is literally no problem with having him at RT.  Switching him to LT has the potential to cause WAY more problems.
 

[Mage]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

An agent who doesn't do everything he can to get him the highest salary possible isn't doing his job.

Name one example of an agent of a right tackle telling him to turn down a big contract so that he can experiment LT on another team.

You are making up a scenario that will not happen.  Because it doesn't make any sense.

Again, LTs and RTs are of equal importance in the NFL nowadays.  The highest paid right tackle, Lane Johnson, makes $18m a year. The highest paid left tackle makes $22m a year, yes, but Moton would NEVER get highest paid left tackle money.  In #2 place is Castonzo at $16.5m.  Stanley's new contract will give him $19m a year.  The money is identical.

There is absolutely no way Moton is turning down a high-end right tackle contract so that he can try left tackle, because it would be pointless.  

We need to just accept that Moton is a great RT and leave it at that.  Why ruin a good thing?  Focus on finding a left tackle who plays left tackle.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Mage said:

Dude, this isn't Madden.  You can't just switch players positions and call it a day.  When has Russell Okung ever played RT?  He would likely underperform, just like Moton would likely underperform at LT (versus how good he is at RT).

You are literally suggesting we take our best RT and best LT and have them switch "just to see how Moton will look at LT."  

Look around the league.  There is a reason why right side guys almost always stay right side and left side guys almost always stay left side.  Yes, there are exceptions.  But when you have played on one side for so long, it isn't just easy or simple to switch.  

It just doesn't make any sense for the Panthers to do this.  And I don't know why it's so hard for you to accept that Moton is just better at RT.  His coaches in college kept him at RT.  The first coaching staff here kept him at RT.  The new coaching staff here kept him at RT.  There is literally no problem with having him at RT.  Switching him to LT has the potential to cause WAY more problems.
 

I don't play Madden.

And if you seriously want to suggest that playing Greg Little at left tackle is our best option if Okung can't go, you're pretty much making my argument for me.

[Mage]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't play Madden.

And if you seriously want to suggest that playing Greg Little at left tackle is our best option if Okung can't go, you're pretty much making my argument for me.

What are you talking about?  I never mentioned Greg Little in my post lol

You have no idea what you are talking about

You are suggesting Moton might turn down a long-term contract for us so that he can experiment at LT, even though the money isn't all that different lol but yeah, I'm "making your argument for you."

It is absolutely stupid for us to potentially open up a new hole at RT just to try Moton at LT, who very well might not be a good LT either.  It is freakin' stupid and everyone but you seems to know that.  Again... do you realize there is a reason guys in the NFL usually stay on one side?  You really think 3 different coaching staffs for Moton decided to keep him at RT just because?

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Mage said:

What are you talking about?  I never mentioned Greg Little in my post lol

You have no idea what you are talking about, and everybody can see that.

You are suggesting Moton might turn down a long-term contract for us so that he can experiment at LT, even though the money isn't all that different lol but yeah, I'm "making your argument for you."

If you "knew what you were talking about" you'd know that Okung played right tackle for several games in college.

You might also know that Moton has played left tackle for us on more than one occasion, so he's not "experimenting".

it might also help if you comprehended what the phrase "what would you do in his shoes" actually means.

But hey...

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

R Stanley signed just in time season ending injury today eeek.

[MHS831]

RR never gave his  a look when our OTs were holding carboard signs---I do not know the reason, but he had the open-mindedness of a very close-minded person.  (thought that one up myself) 

Might he get a shot there now?  I would play him there to see.  This season is not the one, folks.  We are not there yet.  Sure we won a few games, our schedule is getting rough now.  Why not find who wants to play and where they can help you the most?

Trent Scott is an idea.  And you can find a RT in the second or third rounds, where a stud LT is likely to be gone by the middle of the first.

 

[Basbear]

Scott when RT lane Johnson signed his deal, he was the highest paid OL/OT. Raiders made Trent Brown the highest paid OL in the league soon after and they put him as RT. Wasnt until Tunsil and Stanely signed this year that those dea;s where passed. The tag for OT is around 15 million, thats the best bet for panthers. Then work out some deal to lower the number to 5 milllion and push allllll money to the future. 

Hes going to get paid, by the panthers or someone else will. If Im Moton, looking for the best deal.