McCaffrey not expected to play Sunday

[PandaMan]

He may end up playing against the Lions next week.  Second opinion went well

 

 

[kungfoodude]

9 hours ago, Pimpdaddy said:

Frank Gore says hi.... i know hes the exception and not sure what big contracts he had.... but we had no choice but to signCMC .

Pretty sure Gore has never cashed in like that. Not to mention he is an extreme outlier.

[Baba Yaga]

I love the guy and everything he’s done for our team but it’s looking like his body is starting to show wear and tear. This is why you don’t pay running backs top money 

[MasterAwesome]

I wonder how much the Saints regret giving Kamara that big second contract?  They'd probably be 3-5 or 4-4 right now without him.

[TheRumGone]

29 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

I wonder how much the Saints regret giving Kamara that big second contract?  They'd probably be 3-5 or 4-4 right now without him.

The saints also didn’t run him into the ground for two seasons.

[MasterAwesome]

14 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

The saints also didn’t run him into the ground for two seasons.

Sorry, I thought your argument was that you should never sign running backs to a big second contract.  If your argument is that you shouldn't run your star players into the ground, that's pretty uncontroversial and I agree.

You can evaluate a signing and evaluate a player's usage independently.  The CMC signing was a good one (imo), but the way we have been using him is not.  Just like extending Cam was the right call even though we used him as a battering ram and ostensibly shortened his career.

The Saints' usage of Kamara is a pretty good model of what we could and should be doing, especially with a top tier backup like Mike Davis.

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Sorry, I thought your argument was that you should never sign running backs to a big second contract.  If your argument is that you shouldn't run your star players into the ground, that's pretty uncontroversial and I agree.

You can evaluate a signing and evaluate a player's usage independently.  The CMC signing was a good one (imo), but the way we have been using him is not.  Just like extending Cam was the right call even though we used him as a battering ram and ostensibly shortened his career.

The Saints' usage of Kamara is a pretty good model of what we could and should be doing, especially with a top tier backup like Mike Davis.

What about Gurley?  What about David Johnson?  What about Zeke?  What about Drake?  I could go on but you get the point.  1 player over 8 games doesnt make a trend.

[TheRumGone]

55 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Sorry, I thought your argument was that you should never sign running backs to a big second contract.  If your argument is that you shouldn't run your star players into the ground, that's pretty uncontroversial and I agree.

You can evaluate a signing and evaluate a player's usage independently.  The CMC signing was a good one (imo), but the way we have been using him is not.  Just like extending Cam was the right call even though we used him as a battering ram and ostensibly shortened his career.

The Saints' usage of Kamara is a pretty good model of what we could and should be doing, especially with a top tier backup like Mike Davis.

History shows you should not. Like I said there are exceptions. Alvin split reps in the beginning of his career. I doubt the saints would’ve signed him long term if Brees wasn’t at the end and going all in. Saints have been shuffling through rbs for years.
 

Signing and usage should not be independent, especially if you have ran that rb at an extreme rate. And then signed him a year before you even had to. Makes no sense. You can’t really compare Cam to rbs. His issues were freak things that damaged his shoulder. Not running the ball.

[WarHeel]

On 11/11/2020 at 11:46 AM, WarHeel said:

Hopefully not a shoulder separation. I didn’t see the tackle but always a possibility assuming a fall directly on the AC joint. 

Bumping this for all the brownie points, kiddos.