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[TheRumGone]

20 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Yes I have. Earlier this year our receptionist entire left side of her face lost muscle ability and took her 3 months to get back to normal.

Several years ago when it first came out, my mother’s boyfriend had trouble with balance right after getting the shot. Not sure of long term as they broke up.

Don’t need to hear bullshit from the ‘it can’t happen to me’, ‘there are reported side effects but they don’t happen to anyone I know of’, ‘it’s from the government and they approved, it’s safe!’ crowd.

Like I said punishing the responsible crowd bu subjecting them to a vaccine isn’t going to happen, sorry. I’m not willing to risk a vaccine that has been in the making less than a year when the quickest one before that was what? 5, 8 years? Forgive me for being skeptical and not trusting everything shoved down my throat.

That simply is not enough time to test it thoroughly despite what they’ll say.

Face paralysis is Bell’s palsy. It happens to millions of people. That’s more than likely not from a flu shot. Have no idea about the balance thing.
 

I was one of those that wouldn’t take a fast tracked vaccine because it made me nervous until I actually researched how this was actually fast tracked. They’ve been working on isolating this specific  mRNA for the past 20 years because of different covid strains. This isn’t new. It’s been tested for a long time. They just piggybacked off of this 20 year research. It’s also not a live vaccine.
 

The other reason why this has happened so fast is because every single resource has been going towards this for obvious reasons. It has shut down the planet. We have been able to get such fast results because covid is so out of control and there are hundreds of thousands of willing participants for trials while in the past it was very hard to get enough people to participate which elongated test results.

it’s obviously your choice to get the shot or not but good luck going to live events or boarding an airplane for a long while. You’re gonna start seeing people being required proof of covid vaccination. Just like you need proof to travel to certain parts of the planet. 

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What in the Alex Jones QAnon pizzagate level crazy is going on here?

 

I spoke the anti-vaxxing Karens into existence! It's like Beetlejuice!

[kungfoodude]

Just now, bull123 said:

this needs to go to tinderbox...some posters just cant help themselves

Yep. @LinvilleGorge send it into the sewer!

[4Corners]

44 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We're gonna have to figure out how to make the vaccine into pyramid scheme (oh sorry, the new term is MLM) to get all the suburban housewives on board after being scared to death of vaccines by their yoga teacher and homeopathy FB groups. 

U a Twitter joke stealer

its true tho 

[ClawOn]

16 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

Ted:  Isn't that the San Francisco treat?  

Pat: It was.  They're changing their image. 

[onmyown]

4 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Face paralysis is Bell’s palsy. It happens to millions of people. That’s more than likely not from a flu shot. Have no idea about the balance thing.
 

I was one of those that wouldn’t take a fast tracked vaccine because it made me nervous until I actually researched how this was actually fast tracked. They’ve been working on isolating this specific  mRNA for the past 20 years because of different covid strains. This isn’t new. It’s been tested for a long time. They just piggybacked off of this 20 year research. It’s also not a live vaccine.
 

The other reason why this has happened so fast is because every single resource has been going towards this for obvious reasons. It has shut down the planet. We have been able to get such fast results because covid is so out of control and there are hundreds of thousands of willing participants for trials while in the past it was very hard to get enough people to participate which elongated test results.

it’s obviously your choice to get the shot or not but good luck going to live events or boarding an airplane for a long while. You’re gonna start seeing people being required proof of covid vaccination. Just like you need proof to travel to certain parts of the planet. 

All I know is it happened for the first time, the day she got the shot and she was freaking out. I’m not going to try and explain side effects or interactions one would have with a vaccine I am not a professional.

Actually it’s been stated that people won’t be forced to get the vaccine. But no one has any idea of the outcomes.

The problem are all the unknown questions. A simple google search can tell you all the unknowns. They don’t even know if people who have already had Covid should get the vaccine and what the risk/benefits would be for them.

It is illogical to believe they have enough answers to validate the risks/benefits a completely healthy individual that favor getting a vaccine.

Over and over again medical experts emphasize this vaccine was an emergency and while the efficiency part of the trials you’re talking about weren’t affected, there are many areas that were.

Many are also saying there will be a lot of funding out into closely monitoring the vaccine once released because of all these unknowns and while that may be true of any vaccine it’s especially true for be created in an emergency circumstance.

The fact remains there are understandably more unknowns from a vaccine made in 9 months vs. 8 years. There are simple questions that cannot be answered. 
 

I am fine waiting to get the vaccine and not rushing out to get it. If that means giving up some things in life I am completely ok with that.

 

[xPariahx]

17 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

There's no limit to the bullshit people will push is there? That's not what his book was about at all. But whatever. 

Been blown away the last few days in regards to the pure lies people are proud to spread.

Sure it wasn't. His interviews saying the same crap was misconstrued too. You guys will do anything to avoid reality or your just pointedly pushing the agenda. There's only two options.

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, onmyown said:

A simple google search can tell you all the unknowns. 

Ah yes, the great double edged sword of accessing all the available information all the time. No longer do we have smarter people manually filtering out BS to keep the masses from being duped. 

Hence the rise in every imaginable conspiracy theory or just general misinformation, because the average person is either too dumb or too lazy to be able to filter it themselves. 

 

 

*Also aided by companies like Facebook and Google because they don't give a poo if you are getting accurate information at all. 

[xPariahx]

lastly automatically throwing up Enchilada Jones the second someone tells you the establishment isn't your friend is whack. it just proves that he and Rogan who are both CIA assets,  are succeeding in killing free speech by pushing horse crap and chicanery. Alex Jones has always been a fraud.

[xPariahx]

34 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Anti Vaxx morons need to be barred from this forum 

whatever you say SHHEEEPPPPPPP

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, xPariahx said:

lastly automatically throwing up Enchilada Jones the second someone tells you the establishment isn't your friend is whack. it just proves that he and Rogan who are both CIA assets,  are succeeding in killing free speech by pushing horse crap and chicanery. Alex Jones has always been a fraud.

Joe Rogan a CIA asset??? LOL.

If you listen to Joe, he freely calls himself dumb. He is prone to recency bias and you can actively hear that on his show. If he has someone on that appears to be smart, he is more willing to put greater stock into that than to do the research to fully form an opinion. He doesn't do this all the time but he does fall prey to it, as most people tend to. 

[onmyown]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Ah yes, the great double edged sword of accessing all the available information all the time. No longer do we have smarter people manually filtering out BS to keep the masses from being duped. 

Hence the rise in every imaginable conspiracy theory or just general misinformation, because the average person is either too dumb or too lazy to be able to filter it themselves. 

 

 

*Also aided by companies like Facebook and Google because they don't give a poo if you are getting accurate information at all. 

I am mainly reading quoted interviews with people directly involved in the COVID project. Just because someone mentions google doesn’t mean they’re reading everything that pops up or are too stupid to understand conspiracies, bias information and propaganda. 

But there is also something to be said for ones own free thinking -  coming to a logical thought based on you know - logic. I think this inability is 100x more dangerous than google.

[TheRumGone]

1 minute ago, onmyown said:

All I know is it happened for the first time, the day she got the shot and she was freaking out. I’m not going to try and explain side effects or interactions one would have with a vaccine I am not a professional.

Actually it’s been stated that people won’t be forced to get the vaccine. But no one has any idea of the outcomes.

The problem are all the unknown questions. A simple google search can tell you all the unknowns. They don’t even know if people who have already had Covid should get the vaccine and what the risk/benefits would be for them.

It is illogical to believe they have enough answers to validate the risks/benefits a completely healthy individual that favor getting a vaccine.

Over and over again medical experts emphasize this vaccine was an emergency and while the efficiency part of the trials you’re talking about weren’t affected, there are many areas that were.

Many are also saying there will be a lot of funding out into closely monitoring the vaccine once released because of all these unknowns and while that may be true of any vaccine it’s especially true for be created in an emergency circumstance.

The fact remains there are understandably more unknowns from a vaccine made in 9 months vs. 8 years. There are simple questions that cannot be answered. 
 

I am fine waiting to get the vaccine and not rushing out to get it. If that means giving up some things in life I am completely ok with that.

 

Except the main thing that this vaccine targets has been tested and researched for the past 20 years. That’s the point I’m making. They just tweaked it for this strain of covid. the major funding for monitoring is just obvious and like you said they do it for every vaccine ever created.

I never said people would be forced to get it. Just that they may not be allowed to do certain things without proof of covid vacc.

It’s fair to question though, I get it. It’s always good to question. But make sure you’re getting your info from reliable sources.  On a personal opinion this covid vaccine will go down as one of mankind’s greatest achievements, on par with the moon landing.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, onmyown said:

I am mainly reading quoted interviews with people directly involved in the COVID project. Just because someone mentions google doesn’t mean they’re reading everything that pops up or are too stupid to understand conspiracies, bias information and propaganda. 

But there is also something to be said for ones own free thinking -  coming to a logical thought based on you know - logic. I think this inability is 100x more dangerous than google.

Well I also don't see a lot of sources being referenced, which is pretty key to establishing that your opinion is based on factual information. I tend to lean skeptic, so I like source information.