Could we be sleeping on Mac Jones? Charlie Weiss says YES.

[LinvilleGorge]

I have hopes for UNC. Howell is the real deal and we just got a commitment from another big time prospect.

[SCO96]

19 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

Tannenbaum seems to think that Jones is going top 10. Only way I’m good with Jones is if we have a top 5 OL. Otherwise he’s gonna be a miserable failure. He is going to HAVE to have a good line to succeed. 

If Indy hadn't traded for Wentz the Colts may have been a good fit for him. The O-line only gave up 19 sacks with an older/immobile Phillip Rivers at the QB spot. 

Edited February 23, 2021 by SCO96

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Wisconsin fans be like...how you gonna do that? 

 

I called both of them and apologized.

[mickeye76]

27 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

If Indy hadn't traded for Wentz the Colts may have been a good fit for him. The O-line only gave up 19 sacks with an older/immobile Phillip Rivers at the QB spot. 

Its crazy how those sack numbers go down when you invest in a oline.  Rivers and Brady are statues but we're well protected.  

[kungfoodude]

3 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

It'll still all boil down to the scouting/evaluation of each individual QB.  What round a QB was drafted in is ultimately meaningless as a standalone metric; the only reason we reference it, is because it's convenient to make these types of generalizations when we're looking at things at a macro level.

Think of it this way: if we draft Mac Jones in the 1st round vs. the 2nd round, does that mean he's more likely to succeed?  Arguably less so, since we'll presumably be getting a lesser complementary player in the 2nd round as a result (i.e. WR, o-lineman).

I agree with this completely. A big reason a lot of these 1st round guys do end up busting is teams reaching on these prospects. 

Do a thorough evaluation and you should be able to avoid more of those busts.

[Scott12345]

I’ve liked this guy all year

Nobody seems to think he is a #8

coach and GM & owner saw him up close...so they know what they need to know

[Scott12345]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I have hopes for UNC. Howell is the real deal and we just got a commitment from another big time prospect.

That Maye kid coming in this yr may be better than Howell 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Scott12345 said:

That Maye kid coming in this yr may be better than Howell 

He's supposed to be very good but it's gonna take a LOT to be better than Howell. 

[SCO96]

28 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

4 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

It'll still all boil down to the scouting/evaluation of each individual QB.  What round a QB was drafted in is ultimately meaningless as a standalone metric; the only reason we reference it, is because it's convenient to make these types of generalizations when we're looking at things at a macro level.

Think of it this way: if we draft Mac Jones in the 1st round vs. the 2nd round, does that mean he's more likely to succeed?  Arguably less so, since we'll presumably be getting a lesser complementary player in the 2nd round as a result (i.e. WR, o-lineman).

I agree with this completely. A big reason a lot of these 1st round guys do end up busting is teams reaching on these prospects. 

Do a thorough evaluation and you should be able to avoid more of those busts.

I agree with BOTH of You. In fact,that's why I'm gung-ho of taking any of the QB's after Lawrence in round one. This draft seems pretty deep. I'd love to get a couple of o-lineman, and possibly at least two defensive starters out of this draft. Build a better team on both sides of the ball and we probably could get our franchise guy NEXT YEAR via the draft, trade, or free agency. Whoever we got would be more likely to succeed because he'd have a better supporting cast.

[Varking]

Mac Jones should not be a top ten pick.